Planning application overlooking my slurry pit/parlour

[Nearly]

Surely Lancashire isn't that short of nice areas where people may want to spend a holiday that they need to build cottages looking at a dairy unit with the assosciated noisrs and smells.
Good luck.

 

[llamedos]

Surely planning policy already sets out that businesses should not have unreasonable restrictions put on them because of changes in nearby land uses since they were established, was there not something inthe news this last week on new developments can not object to smells & bells or words similar.

 

[rob1]

Surely Lancashire isn't that short of nice areas where people may want to spend a holiday that they need to build cottages looking at a dairy unit with the assosciated noisrs and smells.
Good luck.

holiday lets are an approved diversification so fairly easy to get,IF you can show a business plan that stacks up financially, unfortunately after five or so years it isnt working as holiday lets as nasty mr so and so afew miles away has done the same so I cant make any money, please Mr Coucil can I now use them as normal houses ? Kerching, Me a cynic? never

 

[Nearly]

holiday lets are an approved diversification so fairly easy to get,IF you can show a business plan that stacks up financially, unfortunately after five or so years it isnt working as holiday lets as nasty mr so and so afew miles away has done the same so I cant make any money, please Mr Coucil can I now use them as normal houses ? Kerching, Me a cynic? never

Neighbour just got his holiday cottage passed for full time occupation. He's been living in it for 5 years. I know the scam.

 

[jackrussell101]

Holiday homes shouldn't' cause any hassle it's more long term residents which I would be concerned about.

 

[CORNFLAKE]

My brother in law’s neighbor has 80 static caravans on a field which over looks him. He spreads slurry,chops silage late at night the usual things farmers do and no one ever complains. Quite the opposite the holiday makers see it as a novelty. The footpath is going to be the problem as they will be in the yard for a look at the animals. Good luck with it.

 

[caveman]

Forget farming and put in to convert your yard to a holiday complex.

 

[Alicecow]

Where is the building line around the village? Is this field inside it or outside of it?

 

[bigw]

Could you offer to swap his 2 acres for 2 acres elsewhere on the farm where it would be such a pain in the ass? Failing that put in an objection, speak to environmental health about your concerns and request a site visit from planners to do the same.

 

[Blue.]

How close to the properties/land can you spread slurry? Go out daily and put 1 load next to them from now on...

Put planning in for a 500 cow dairy unit and 3mG slurry lagoon and put it about that your moving to 3 times a day milking??

What area are you in?

I already have 500+ cattle within 150m of the site,putting in for more would mean they would be further away.

I think the silencer needs to fall off the vacuum pump,like the idea of 3x milking.

I'm in central lancs,10m out of an aonb,same as the proposed site.

Definitely point out the obvious, a good aspect is that its holiday homes, so there shouldn't be a chance of anyone compiling a long term dossier of noise/smell, but i might be an idea to emphasise that this is a good reason why they should never become permanent dwellings. Additionally if this goes ahead you will be up the proverbial creek planning wise, no more serving notices stating an agricultural building will be going up in 30 days time. Time to draw up the wish list for the next 20 years, get it down on paper and approved. As long as you start within 3 years you've got forever to finish.
You will need to make it an "objection" or there is zero chance of it going anywhere near a planning committee, local councils have targets to meet, must approve something like 90% of applications within 8 weeks, and mustn't take more than 10% to committee. Most applications are decided either by officers, or at a chairmans delegation meeting. I have spent many years on our Parish Council planning committee so have a good idea of how it goes.
Your Parish council will be asked to comment, they should meet and discuss it in public and give you a chance to speak at the meeting. They must publicly announce when they are meeting and issue an agenda at least three clear days before hand. Its worthwhile going as most cllrs find it difficult to ignore parishioners views and their request for an application to go to committee bears more weight than yours.
Lastly does your district cllr have any relationship with the applicant, business or personal. If so they must declare it and not attend the meeting.

As above any further development would be a bigger distance away,still under 400m away.

I think I need to talk with our district councillor.

After reading what you are objecting to, I would formally in the form of a letter stating that you feel the site is unsuitable for further development on environmental health grounds due to the proximity to your slurry pit.
Is the land within the Limits of Built Environment or on a Brownfield site? Most land around farms tends to be Green Belt / Open Counrtyside and developemt would normally be frowned upon anyway.
Drop me a PM if you want me to have a quick look at the application.

It's open countryside,1/2 of a mile out of the village curtilage.

Forget farming and put in to convert your yard to a holiday complex.

My buildings aren't suitable to convert,all new in the last 15 years except one.

Where is the building line around the village? Is this field inside it or outside of it?

As above .

Could you offer to swap his 2 acres for 2 acres elsewhere on the farm where it would be such a pain in the ass? Failing that put in an objection, speak to environmental health about your concerns and request a site visit from planners to do the same.

One of the applicants main gains is transformed electric on site and water running up the boundary,I can't think of anywhere else with this or a suitable swap.

Still an option though.

 

[Wastexprt]

You might be well to consult a good planning consultant to assist in writing your objections. That way you will be advised what if any planning reasons there are for refusal and vice versa why planning would not be refused.

This ^, I'm sure that there is potential within the Sec106 framework to ask the developer to pay for improvements to your business, should the application be successful, to prevent any detriment to your business.

 

[Alicecow]

That close to an aonb and that far outside of the village proper then I would have thought an objection or two would be bound to squash it. In addition to everything else it is changing the nature of the village.

 

[Henarar]

If your thinking of any more sheds then put in planning for them

 

[George from SJM Planning]

It's open countryside,1/2 of a mile out of the village curtilage.

Then I think you should really consider a formal objection, you have at least two grounds for objection.

 

[Blue.]

Thanks for the replies so far,I've contacted a local planning firm to look into this for me.

Had a good study of the application and they have lied about measurements from my dwelling,claimed 80m further away than it is,I presume this is to gain on the distance from my slurry pit.

Also the applicant has lied about ownership,I bought the conveyance last night and it clearly not owned by the applicant.

 

[Old Boar]

Unfortunately it does not have to be owned by the applicant (or at least, not round here), just an agreement with the owner. You can ask why the owner is not the applicant though, in case they miss who is applying.
Have a good look through the Councils planning website. It usually gives rules and hints and tips for those looking for planning, but this can work in reverse and give you some ideas of objections, such as traffic access etc.
Bats can stop a planning in its tracks. Didnt you see a rare toad or newt?

 

[Alicecow]

Being able to prove that he is telling lies should add weight to your objection

 

[Blue.]

Unfortunately it does not have to be owned by the applicant (or at least, not round here), just an agreement with the owner. You can ask why the owner is not the applicant though, in case they miss who is applying.
Have a good look through the Councils planning website. It usually gives rules and hints and tips for those looking for planning, but this can work in reverse and give you some ideas of objections, such as traffic access etc.
Bats can stop a planning in its tracks. Didnt you see a rare toad or newt?

They have certified they are the owners.

They have already provided an ecology report,came onto my land without permission,took pictures at my ponds and have said the high banking on the pond would mean newts wouldn't make it to the site.

They also recommended the high hedge on the South side be left for bats,they cut the hedge down today,for the 1st time in 38 years being here I can now see my neighbours house.

 

[Bongodog]

Thanks for the replies so far,I've contacted a local planning firm to look into this for me.

Had a good study of the application and they have lied about measurements from my dwelling,claimed 80m further away than it is,I presume this is to gain on the distance from my slurry pit.

Also the applicant has lied about ownership,I bought the conveyance last night and it clearly not owned by the applicant.

The false ownership is in itself grounds for the application to be declared void, the application form clearly has a section in which the applicant either has to declare ownership or state that a form has been served on the owner, as are the incorrect distances. Unfortunately however some planning departments don't seem to give a stuff when these things are pointed out.

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

Neighbour's Poultry farm had a house built only 50 yards from his slurry pit 2 years ago. Poultry have been there for 30 years, but now he has nothing but complaints to anyone who will listen about the noise and smell. Do YOUR BEST TO STOP IT.