Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

Dookist

Member
We have just been informed one of our jobs needs a third overnight roost survey after a pippestrel bat was seen entering the gable end. The only available date is the last day of the survey period and we had 2 hours to get the clients approval before they gave that slot to the next customer. This is from a very prominent nationwide company.
It's an absolute nightmare! I can't find anyone to do it and the council won't determine the application until I provide one. Surveys are not cheap, either.
It's crazy that a building which has been in situ for almost 4 years needs an eco survey simply for retrospctive permission to retain the building.
 

Dookist

Member
I was selling a property a few years back and the flood risk assessment suggested that one part of the building may be at risk of flooding. The potential client at the time pulled out of the deal as a result.
This was when loads of places were getting flooded around the country and it was high profile news at the time so almost understandable but if the building did flood it would mean half of Cheshire would have had to be under water. I had lived there for 50 years and seen a few heavy rain events but only 3 times have I seen the water high enough to flow over the lane, it would have to rise a further 3 metres of open countryside to flood the building. It is not going to flood unless the polar ice caps melt.
The last time this site was partially flooded was back in 1953... I think much of the coast was flooded at the same time...
 

Dookist

Member
Planning is all about writing cheques and arse covering . Commonsense doesnt come into it at any point, the sooner an applicant accepts the above the less stressed they will become. Its a maddening experience even when you get your project passed.
You're right there... my blood pressure is through the roof! Fine, if stressful, for those with spare cash, but when you're trying to do things on a state pension, you realise you're up against a brick wall. Dx
 

Dookist

Member
Yes, for residential development they're has been a requirement for "safe access and egress" for many years. That means not having to cross flood water, especially fast flowing water of ANY depth (just 6" of fast flowing water can take a fit adult of their feet).

I've seen some very creative solutions to that proposed in some places..... :rolleyes:
My previous property was close to a river and we flooded twice in the space of 6 months, back in 2001...luckily we had an upstairs! But with the high water table, the septic tank would often spill out... I was glad to sell in the end. Dx
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
My whole job now is pretty much checking all our submissions against Local Authority Validation Checklists, EA Maps, Historic England databases etc.
There is a National Minimum Requirement for Planning Validation but from that starting point LPA's can make up their own validation requirements - we have worked in 30 different LPA's in the past 3 years, it is a full time job just keeping up!
What a ballache, but I guess the whole sorry mess is what keeps you in gainful employment as it is nigh on impossible for a layman to dip into on a one-off basis.
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
I have grown to hate Welsh planning even to the point I have given up aspirations of setting up an SJM Wales office. It goes from two extremes here either JFDI because nobody will know or care OR you need to jump through every hurdle twice to justify yourself to everyone and their dog.
I love living here but they can keep their planning system!
In my opinion the Welsh Assembly seem to make a dogs dinner of everything they touch, when I used to look after apprentices we had to fulfil the same EU directive as the rest of the UK (on proof of identity, qualifications, employers address, permission to live in the UK etc), England made it a very simple job, we had to photocopy Birth Certificate, GCSE Certificates, NI Number letter etc and often the apprentices who came from a chaotic background did not have these forms available. You may all say, ah easy to find the paperwork for your children, however quite a few apprentices have chaotic backgrounds and it can be quite difficult for them. I am guessing the same bureaucratic mindset has been used in setting up the planning system! The worst words I could ever hear are "it is good practice to ........"
 

Dookist

Member
I hope he stops alot of the house building tbh, its spoiling some lovely areas and ruining quiet country roads.
I think with 300,000 houses needed every year, we are definitely going to see more houses being built in the countryside. My area has no available building land at all and develoment is being carried out on greenbelt farmland, much of which is in a flood zone... It's not ideal. In a small country, we should be trying to keep as much farmland as possible to feed ourselves. Yet LPAs make it very difficult for people who have brownfield sites ... It makes no sense at all...
 

Dookist

Member
I have been to visit jobs where there were bats and the building was altered to allow the bats to still live there (bat friendly wall/roost etc etc).
I have only bat boxes...but they are attached to a building that the LPA may enforce demolition of. They are telling me to get an ecology report during a time where the (summer roosting) bats are unlikely to be in situ.
 

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