Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

Col555

Member
Location
Cumbria
Just after a quick answer....Is it correct that we can prepare a site for a building before planning permission is granted? So in theory on the day it’s granted it could go up. Just been taking some top soil off and laying down some hardcore in preparation. Is this ok or am I going to be in trouble? If pp isn’t given, it’ll be a storage pad for machinery or bales. We’re miles from anyone, so can’t see it been rejected

Edit: should of said it’s a 80’x80’ ag building on full pp
 

Greenbeast

Member
Location
East Sussex
Just after a quick answer....Is it correct that we can prepare a site for a building before planning permission is granted? So in theory on the day it’s granted it could go up. Just been taking some top soil off and laying down some hardcore in preparation. Is this ok or am I going to be in trouble? If pp isn’t given, it’ll be a storage pad for machinery or bales. We’re miles from anyone, so can’t see it been rejected

you need PD to lay a hardstanding, at least, maybe even taking the top soil up, so hopefully it comes through and noone complains....
 
Just after a quick answer....Is it correct that we can prepare a site for a building before planning permission is granted? So in theory on the day it’s granted it could go up. Just been taking some top soil off and laying down some hardcore in preparation. Is this ok or am I going to be in trouble? If pp isn’t given, it’ll be a storage pad for machinery or bales. We’re miles from anyone, so can’t see it been rejected

you need PD to lay a hardstanding, at least, maybe even taking the top soil up, so hopefully it comes through and noone complains....
As @Greenbeast says, the topsoil part shouldn't be an issue but installation of hardstanding is an engineering operation in planning law and would require permission, PD generally or even full planning in some cases.
 

Col555

Member
Location
Cumbria
you need PD to lay a hardstanding, at least, maybe even taking the top soil up, so hopefully it comes through and noone complains....

Thanks for the quick reply. I’m just going by what one of the kit building suppliers told me when they made a site visit for a quote. He said prepping the site with hardcore would be fine, just don’t lay concrete until it’s passed. Can’t see anyone complaining...............I hope
 

Mac10

Member
Location
SE
Finally got the go ahead for PD conversion of old stable block to a single, 3 bed dwelling. A local architect did initial drawings and submitted the application for me.

Architect now suggesting doing building regs drawings, and quoting me the princely sum of £7k. I'm not up to speed with the costs of these things, so is this a 'normal' figure? Is there a cheaper way? Initial drawings weren't exactly cheap in the first place.
 
Finally got the go ahead for PD conversion of old stable block to a single, 3 bed dwelling. A local architect did initial drawings and submitted the application for me.

Architect now suggesting doing building regs drawings, and quoting me the princely sum of £7k. I'm not up to speed with the costs of these things, so is this a 'normal' figure? Is there a cheaper way? Initial drawings weren't exactly cheap in the first place.
That is a bit steep. I would have thought 7k would have covered the planning and building regs drawings!
If it is the same architect who did the planning drawings I would expect in this day and age that "taking the drawings to the next stage" i.e building regs, structural etc would be a minor expense.

I would ask the council if you could do the work on a building notice. This is a bit like the old fashioned way when the council would attend site at certain points to assess the work is done correctly. It requires much less drawing and pre-work submission.
The advantage of putting in full building regs drawings is that once they are approved you will rarely see anyone from the council on site.

Still, at £7k for just building regs we definitely need to be looking at our pricing structure!
 

Forever Fendt

Member
Location
Derbyshire
That is a bit steep. I would have thought 7k would have covered the planning and building regs drawings!
If it is the same architect who did the planning drawings I would expect in this day and age that "taking the drawings to the next stage" i.e building regs, structural etc would be a minor expense.

I would ask the council if you could do the work on a building notice. This is a bit like the old fashioned way when the council would attend site at certain points to assess the work is done correctly. It requires much less drawing and pre-work submission.
The advantage of putting in full building regs drawings is that once they are approved you will rarely see anyone from the council on site.

Still, at £7k for just building regs we definitely need to be looking at our pricing structure!
I could sum that up in a few words over charging would be the polite way of putting it,A lot will depend how much design work they have put in but if its only elevation drawings for planning then a build spec for building regs anything over £2.5 k for the work without disbursements is starting to look top heavy, now you have planning they look at what you are making and want a slice of the action
 
I could sum that up in a few words over charging would be the polite way of putting it,A lot will depend how much design work they have put in but if its only elevation drawings for planning then a build spec for building regs anything over £2.5 k for the work without disbursements is starting to look top heavy, now you have planning they look at what you are making and want a slice of the action
Planning Applications need so much detail on the plans now that the drawings I submit could almost pass for building regs and our architect just takes them from me and tweaks them.

I find that if an architect does planning and then building regs then they'll charge whatever the hell they want because they already have you.
 

phillipe

Member
Finally got the go ahead for PD conversion of old stable block to a single, 3 bed dwelling. A local architect did initial drawings and submitted the application for me.

Architect now suggesting doing building regs drawings, and quoting me the princely sum of £7k. I'm not up to speed with the costs of these things, so is this a 'normal' figure? Is there a cheaper way? Initial drawings weren't exactly cheap in the first place.
Get your builder to do it with the local building inspector,do it on a notice m I think which means you do it as you go along ,
 

Mac10

Member
Location
SE
Thanks for clearing that up! I nearly keeled over when he mentioned the price but made out it was normal and reasonable. It's the same architect who did the initial plans (elevations and internal layout) and submission.

I'll certainly be looking into the other options you mentioned! (y)
 

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