Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

[cameron39]

Thank you, I would much rather you be blunt as that is why I commented on here. Thanks.

My next question;

I am told that this building here does not need planning permission because it is a temporary building; https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/172964532108

Does it need planning? And would I need planning permission for the concrete floor that’s it would sit on?

Thanks.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thank you, I would much rather you be blunt as that is why I commented on here. Thanks.

My next question;

I am told that this building here does not need planning permission because it is a temporary building; https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/172964532108

Does it need planning? And would I need planning permission for the concrete floor that’s it would sit on?

Thanks.

Yes the pad would need permission and that would efectively show the intention for the building's use to be permanent. In any case building would need permission to if the use is internded to be permanent it is nothing to do with the construction method of the building itself. I will give some examples:

1. Shipping Container to store materials on-site for a building project - TEMPORARY
2. Shipping Container in builders yard to store plant and machinery long term (more than 6 weeks say) - PERMANENT
3. A Gazebo errected to protect a projcet car while the car is being worked on - TEMPORARY
4. A Gazebo errected to undertake work on multiple cars over a substantial time period - PERMANENT
5. A Marquee errected for a wedding - TEMPORARY
6. A Marquee errected to be able to conduct wedding ceremonies - PERMANENT

It is all in the intention.

 

[onthehoof]

Have just lost 2 straw sheds in a fire, just getting quotes for 2 new ones -similar size but different orientation, do I need planning permission
@GeorgieB82 ??
Thanks

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Hi @GeorgieB82
Have just lost 2 straw sheds in a fire, just getting quotes for 2 new ones -similar size but different orientation, do I need planning permission.
Thanks

I'm sorry to hear that, unfortunately you will require some sort of planning permission, either PD or Full Planning.

 

[onthehoof]

Had a feeling you might say that
Thanks anyway

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Had a feeling you might say that
Thanks anyway

If you need help drop me a PM

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Had a feeling you might say that
Thanks anyway

Full planning for both here

About to hear the result of the second application

Like you, we are replacing nearly "like for like" but moving location a little with the wooden barn (after a devastating fire it's mad to re-attach it to the brick buildings).

 

[onthehoof]

Full planning for both here

About to hear the result of the second application

Like you, we are replacing nearly "like for like" but moving location a little with the wooden barn (after a devastating fire it's mad to re-attach it to the brick buildings).

The plan here is to replace Dutch barns with grainstore type buildings i.e. fully clad down sides and ends, concrete panels and doors - will still only be used for hay and straw for now but trying to make them arson proof if that is possible!

 

[Wooly]

Quick question to you building experts :

Now they have expanded the area for permitted development buildings from 465m2 to 1000m2, do you still pay the same planning permission fee of £90(?), or is it done on size ?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Quick question to you building experts :

Now they have expanded the area for permitted development buildings from 465m2 to 1000m2, do you still pay the same planning permission fee of £90(?), or is it done on size ?

It is still the same fee for Permitted Development.

 

[Wooly]

It is still the same fee for Permitted Development.

So £96 for upto 1000m2 on a 28 day notice ?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

So £96 for upto 1000m2 on a 28 day notice ?

Yes, although some councils add a £20 admin fee!

 

[onthehoof]

1000sqm = how many sq feet

Sorry

 

[Nearly]

1000sqm = how many sq feet

Sorry

https://www.google.com/search?q=100....69i57j0l5.10354j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

[Wooly]

1000sqm = how many sq feet

Sorry

10,763.9 square feet

 

[onthehoof]

That’s lucky as new building will be just under 1000 sqm so will go for permitted development.
Just having a look at online application, under type of application do I put ‘lawful development existing use’ or ‘prior notification’

 

[George from SJM Planning]

That’s lucky as new building will be just under 1000 sqm so will go for permitted development.
Just having a look at online application, under type of application do I put ‘lawful development existing use’ or ‘prior notification’

There is an application type called "Prior Notification (Agriculture/Forestry)

 

[onthehoof]

Just thinking out loud.
Would I be better to go for full planning this time with a view to keeping PD rights up my sleeve for future

 

[onthehoof]

Full planning for both here

About to hear the result of the second application

Like you, we are replacing nearly "like for like" but moving location a little with the wooden barn (after a devastating fire it's mad to re-attach it to the brick buildings).

Why full planning and not PD?

 

[Poncherello1976]

Yes, although some councils add a £20 admin fee!

Yes, Just done a Prior Notification application. £90 plus £20 admin fee. Still cheap for a large building though.