Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

[Kidds]

I would persoanlly assume that the 'right of way' would be sold with the property

Assumption is the mother of all f**k ups.
Read your deeds, the sentence will be under access and you are hoping for the sentence that says "access with and without vehicles for any purposes". What you don't want is "access limited to agricultural use".
Assuming anything without actually checking is quite a big mistake.

 

[sant2468]

Assumption is the mother of all f**k ups.
Read your deeds, the sentence will be under access and you are hoping for the sentence that says "access with and without vehicles for any purposes". What you don't want is "access limited to agricultural use".
Assuming anything without actually checking is quite a big mistake.

ok ... validate point .. i'll double check

 

[sant2468]

ok ... validate point .. i'll double check

checked the deeds and it states ... owner has right of way on the track via foot or vehicle for all purposes

 

[Pasty]

Question ref. class Q and new barn PN rights if anyone knows. Ag holding, 1 barn not really suitable for Ag. What I would like to do is put in for PN on a barn first and then go for class Q on the old barn later. I gather that PN for barns can only be applied for every 3 years. Class Q means no PN for 10 years. Correct me if I'm wrong.

What I would like to know is, can I put in for a decent barn now for hay / straw / machinery and then in 3 years put in for class Q on the old barn? Or would I have to wait the 10 years after the new barn?

I may have the wrong end of the stick anyway.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Question ref. class Q and new barn PN rights if anyone knows. Ag holding, 1 barn not really suitable for Ag. What I would like to do is put in for PN on a barn first and then go for class Q on the old barn later. I gather that PN for barns can only be applied for every 3 years. Class Q means no PN for 10 years. Correct me if I'm wrong.

What I would like to know is, can I put in for a decent barn now for hay / straw / machinery and then in 3 years put in for class Q on the old barn? Or would I have to wait the 10 years after the new barn?

I may have the wrong end of the stick anyway.

Prior Approval for any new building with forfeit your Class Q for 10 years.

You would be better putting in Class Q now and clearly state in the application that the barn is no longer fit for agricultural use and then once approved apply for full planning for a new barn.

 

[Pasty]

Thanks George,

I was under the impression that a full PA would require far more detail and justification? ie. you'll probably get more barn under PN?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thanks George,

I was under the impression that a full PA would require far more detail and justification? ie. you'll probably get more barn under PN?

To be honest with how most council's assess PN you will be doing the same work.
I have one on Bolton which I have had to do far more work on that I did for the last full planning agri barn.

 

[Pasty]

To be honest with how most council's assess PN you will be doing the same work.
I have one on Bolton which I have had to do far more work on that I did for the last full planning agri barn.

Thanks, I may be in touch once I've got a few sales cleared up. That's if you do work in the SW.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Thanks, I may be in touch once I've got a few sales cleared up. That's if you do work in the SW.

Happy to consider work nationwide; I've just done a Teams meeting pre-app with North Devon this afternoon!

 

[Nearly]

Put in for part Q conversion.

If you've to pay a few £k planning fee for full planning on a shed then it's a small price to pay for a new house plot.

 

[Blue.]

Prior Approval for any new building with forfeit your Class Q for 10 years.

You would be better putting in Class Q now and clearly state in the application that the barn is no longer fit for agricultural use and then once approved apply for full planning for a new barn.

Does prior approval for a track forfeit class Q?

I’ve just used prior approval for a livestock track,can I use class Q or R or do I have to wait?

 

[Still Farming]

Looks good for ENGLAND AGAIN?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Does prior approval for a track forfeit class Q?

I’ve just used prior approval for a livestock track,can I use class Q or R or do I have to wait?

No it does not. Class Q is only affected by 'development under Class A(a) or Class B(a) of Part 6'.
A(a) and B(a) are both relating to the extension or alteration or a building (errection also in the case of A(a)).

 

[Kidds]

Looks good for ENGLAND AGAIN?
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That is very good news for me depending on what actually gets implemented. Thanks for posting that.

 

[Still Farming]

That is very good news for me depending on what actually gets implemented. Thanks for posting that.

WALES lose out everytime with this shower at the Senedd in charge???

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Looks good for ENGLAND AGAIN?
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Will be following with interest. Most of the South East is in one AONB or another.

 

[Kidds]

WALES lose out everytime with this shower at the Senedd in charge???

It is a shame as Wales probably needs it more than England on the grand scale of things.
My long term plan is to eventually make use of class Q but there is always the threat of it being removed, the other good news in there is that they are proposing to make where I live AONB so scuppering class Q anyway. Very pleased to hear they are keeping class Q and allowing it in AONB too.
We'll see.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

WALES lose out everytime with this shower at the Senedd in charge???

They are scared that every barn in Wales will become a second home

 

[Still Farming]

They are scared that every barn in Wales will become a second home

Their'll TAX it what ever ,so their "cutting their our throats ",in the long run but TOO STUPID to see it??
Plus they want extra 39 clowns at 58k min. Start wages to help them too???

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Their'll TAX it what ever ,so their "cutting their our throats ",in the long run but TOO STUPID to see it??
Plus they want extra 39 clowns at 58k min. Start wages to help them too???

There is a reason I don't actively seek planning work on Wales.
I also know that our local authority are down to their last planning officer so I asked if they needed someone on a short term contract to assist until they covered their positions (with approval from my boss). Despite actively working in the industry for nearly a decade I would not pass the soft because I do not have a degree - not a planning based degree, but any degree. My wife who has an archaeology degree has a better chance at getting a job in our local planning department than me!