Planning Applications, PD and the like (General Chat)

[br jones]

There is a reason I don't actively seek planning work on Wales.
I also know that our local authority are down to their last planning officer so I asked if they needed someone on a short term contract to assist until they covered their positions (with approval from my boss). Despite actively working in the industry for nearly a decade I would not pass the soft because I do not have a degree - not a planning based degree, but any degree. My wife who has an archaeology degree has a better chance at getting a job in our local planning department than me!

Monmouthshire the same ,planning dept is on its arse

 

[Pasty]

Most of them are. Probably a good time to get in an application, especially a 30 day one. Or submit at the beginning of the summer or Xmas holidays

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Most of them are. Probably a good time to get in an application, especially a 30 day one. Or submit at the beginning of the summer or Xmas holidays

Certainly a good time to get one in that needs a decision within a certain time period.

 

[sant2468]

Looks good for ENGLAND AGAIN?
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what does this change mean in real world? Is it a new classification law?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

what does this change mean in real world? Is it a new classification law?

Just unofficial at present. The GPDO has not been updated, just being discussed at present

 

[teslacoils]

If you had planning for a shed under pd, do you have to build the whole shed?

I've planning for a 50*200. But in reality I can't afford to do it all in one go. If I did 50*100 would that be fine? How about if I did 60*80?

And what would happen to the remaining square footage?

 

[Bruce Almighty]

A local builder stores his materials in my yard.
Should we have planning permission ?
It’s not visible from the road or any footpaths
Thanks

 

[theboytheboy]

A local builder stores his materials in my yard.
Should we have planning permission ?
It’s not visible from the road or any footpaths
Thanks

I'm sure the answer is yes you should.....however I do lots of this sort of thing and don't. I have a footpath running through the yard and it's all visible.

 

[robs1]

If you had planning for a shed under pd, do you have to build the whole shed?

I've planning for a 50*200. But in reality I can't afford to do it all in one go. If I did 50*100 would that be fine? How about if I did 60*80?

And what would happen to the remaining square footage?

Put up what you can and put the bases in for the rest,

 

[George from SJM Planning]

If you had planning for a shed under pd, do you have to build the whole shed?

I've planning for a 50*200. But in reality I can't afford to do it all in one go. If I did 50*100 would that be fine? How about if I did 60*80?

And what would happen to the remaining square footage?

Technically you should reapply for Prior Approval for the smaller version.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

A local builder stores his materials in my yard.
Should we have planning permission ?
It’s not visible from the road or any footpaths
Thanks

Yes you should, it is a non-agricultural use.

 

[Fogg]

But, if a tree falls down in the woods and there's no one there to see it....

 

[puppet]

Anyone had a house application for succession planning in Scotland? Had some positive noises initially for a new house just 30m from the steading, partially shielded by trees and well below the skyline and our current house as well as a neighbour 100m away. Viable business, 100 sucklers, 240 ewes, partnership with son for 10 years who currently rents a cottage nearby which possibly may not be long-term option.
15 months later negative noises now from planning about lack of clarity on business viability, house too prominent and doubts about succession. The land is still held in our name as always risk of death/divorce which would finish off the farm but the business is 51% in son's name.
Not sure where we go as we thought we had given planning enough evidence?

 

[sant2468]

I'm looking to go for Class Q on land that has TPO. We have 1 small tree aound near the building (approx 2-3m away from building). Could someone adivce weather the TPO would be an issue the planners could raise as an objection ?

 

[George from SJM Planning]

I'm looking to go for Class Q on land that has TPO. We have 1 small tree aound near the building (approx 2-3m away from building). Could someone adivce weather the TPO would be an issue the planners could raise as an objection ?

TPO's are not a consideration for a Class Q as for a Class Q you can't do any works that would normally affect the tree (foundations, excavations etc) so it wouldn't be affected.

However if your landscaping proposal requires its removal then once Class Q is approved you will need to apply for consent to remove the tree.

 

[Slippery Slope]

Or get a tame tree surgeon to condemn it for health and safety reasons and replant a replacement slightly further away!

 

[George from SJM Planning]

Or get a tame tree surgeon to condemn it for health and safety reasons and replant a replacement slightly further away!

Will still need approval from the council

 

[Grass And Grain]

I'm in a class 3 flood zone, although the farmyard is up on a bit of a hill, so the big blue EA splodge on the map is wrong imho. But like it or not, it's class 3 flood zone.

I've a couple of barns which would be nice to get class Q on, but presume they'd get rejected due to the flood risk.

Class R, up to 150m2 doesn't have flood risk as a criteria iirc. So, could I go for class R on the ground floor, leaving the first floor as agricultural use. Then apply for class Q on the first floor?

Anyone done anything like this?

Edit. If class Q is possibly going to be made easier in future, maybe I should just wait, although I'd like rent/income to have paid for the building work before I get to retirement age.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

I'm in a class 3 flood zone, although the farmyard is up on a bit of a hill, so the big blue EA splodge on the map is wrong imho. But like it or not, it's class 3 flood zone.

I've a couple of barns which would be nice to get class Q on, but presume they'd get rejected due to the flood risk.

Class R, up to 150m2 doesn't have flood risk as a criteria iirc. So, could I go for class R on the ground floor, leaving the first floor as agricultural use. Then apply for class Q on the first floor?

Anyone done anything like this?

Edit. If class Q is possibly going to be made easier in future, maybe I should just wait, although I'd like rent/income to have paid for the building work before I get to retirement age.

Class Q in FZ3 is not impossible, especially as you say if it is in an elevated position. The important criteria to counter the obvious Environment Agency objection is to have a survey and Flood Risk Assessment done to prove the floor levels will be higher than the EA require for habitable rooms (and sleeping accomodation).

The other thing to consider is if you are surrounded by FZ2 & FZ3 then is there a safe route of evacuation - this will be a consideration whether you go for ground floor or first floor accomodation.
Evacuation routes are assessed by the LPA not the EA and they will have their own requirements but from my recent experience you will need to demonstrate that the occupants can get out or emergency services can get in at the height of a flood without fording anymore than 30cm of water at any point.

Class R under 150m2 does not consider flood risk (in fact it is not even a formal application, all you need to do is notify the LPA of your intentions) so would be acceptable.

You mention Class Q on the first floor - does the building have an existing first floor that is structurally capable of conversion? Neither Class Q or Class R allow for the addition of any structural elements at all.

 

[Grass And Grain]

Class Q in FZ3 is not impossible, especially as you say if it is in an elevated position. The important criteria to counter the obvious Environment Agency objection is to have a survey and Flood Risk Assessment done to prove the floor levels will be higher than the EA require for habitable rooms (and sleeping accomodation).

The other thing to consider is if you are surrounded by FZ2 & FZ3 then is there a safe route of evacuation - this will be a consideration whether you go for ground floor or first floor accomodation.
Evacuation routes are assessed by the LPA not the EA and they will have their own requirements but from my recent experience you will need to demonstrate that the occupants can get out or emergency services can get in at the height of a flood without fording anymore than 30cm of water at any point.

Class R under 150m2 does not consider flood risk (in fact it is not even a formal application, all you need to do is notify the LPA of your intentions) so would be acceptable.

You mention Class Q on the first floor - does the building have an existing first floor that is structurally capable of conversion? Neither Class Q or Class R allow for the addition of any structural elements at all.

Yes, it has existing first floor.