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<blockquote data-quote="holwellcourtfarm" data-source="post: 7790713" data-attributes="member: 42914"><p>Yesterday the work [USER=16346]@George from SJM Planning[/USER] has been doing on our barn PD application came to an end with East herts DC granting conditional approval for the conversion of our 80 x 60 hay barn into 2 dwellings. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite24" alt="(y)" title="Thumbs Up (y)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(y)" /></p><p></p><p>Last year we applied under GPDO Part Q to turn this:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]991227[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>with this outlook (London is just over the hill behind the trees)</p><p>[ATTACH=full]991230[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>into this pair of dwellings</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]991231[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>We were refused. The barn was originally erected in 2003 under full planning permission (because it was within 3km of an aerodrome) with these conditions:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]991232[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The planning officer, very usefully, wrote a long and complete report on the application demonstrating that it met all of the conditions required for Part Q approval but that he considered that the above condition 2 on the original planning removed PD rights and so our application was invalid, we had been caught by the <em>Dunnett investments</em> test case.</p><p></p><p>We went away and did LOTS of homework, eventually finding this little gem:</p><p></p><p>In September 2016 an appeal was made against the refusal by North Herts DC to remove a planning condition which had itself removed PD rights from a barn at Knebworth. The planning inspector upheld the appeal on the grounds that PD rights are only to be removed in exceptional circumstances and that, in removing the rights, the council had failed in this case to prove such exceptional circumstances.</p><p></p><p>We submitted an application, based on that appeal judgement, for the removal of the second condition from our barns' original planning permission. Our decision was due on April 1st this year but the council sat on it as they didn't quite know what to do. Eventually, after considerable pressure was applied we received approval in August, freeing us to re-apply for Part Q.</p><p></p><p>Yesterday that application succeded.</p><p></p><p>It has been a long road but well worth it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="holwellcourtfarm, post: 7790713, member: 42914"] Yesterday the work [USER=16346]@George from SJM Planning[/USER] has been doing on our barn PD application came to an end with East herts DC granting conditional approval for the conversion of our 80 x 60 hay barn into 2 dwellings. (y) Last year we applied under GPDO Part Q to turn this: [ATTACH type="full"]991227[/ATTACH] with this outlook (London is just over the hill behind the trees) [ATTACH type="full"]991230[/ATTACH] into this pair of dwellings [ATTACH type="full"]991231[/ATTACH] We were refused. The barn was originally erected in 2003 under full planning permission (because it was within 3km of an aerodrome) with these conditions: [ATTACH type="full"]991232[/ATTACH] The planning officer, very usefully, wrote a long and complete report on the application demonstrating that it met all of the conditions required for Part Q approval but that he considered that the above condition 2 on the original planning removed PD rights and so our application was invalid, we had been caught by the [I]Dunnett investments[/I] test case. We went away and did LOTS of homework, eventually finding this little gem: In September 2016 an appeal was made against the refusal by North Herts DC to remove a planning condition which had itself removed PD rights from a barn at Knebworth. The planning inspector upheld the appeal on the grounds that PD rights are only to be removed in exceptional circumstances and that, in removing the rights, the council had failed in this case to prove such exceptional circumstances. We submitted an application, based on that appeal judgement, for the removal of the second condition from our barns' original planning permission. Our decision was due on April 1st this year but the council sat on it as they didn't quite know what to do. Eventually, after considerable pressure was applied we received approval in August, freeing us to re-apply for Part Q. Yesterday that application succeded. It has been a long road but well worth it. [/QUOTE]
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