Please can we have another referendum

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Interesting.

It always strikes me as strange, that a great many of those dear young things that voted to stay in the Common Market way back in the seventies, have either died off or need to die, as they are now brexit supporters.
Maybe there's a message there.
If you vote leave, you are guaranteed a long life and get to vote leave a second time.
If you vote remain, you get an early grave and no second vote.

Or maybe you've just got fed up with paying all that tax and seeing it being sent elswhere to support a trading deficit situation over the years.


I think the world is turning to sh!t and wouldn't want a long life. In fact just chatting to my neighbour this morning we both agreed we were glad not to be young
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
Best of 3 at that point . Its A shambe as we have not got a leaver running the show, that might change soon, Mrs May dosent cut it she couldnt negotiate her way out of a paper bag.
Well at least she is negotiating, different to those who just want to crash out with no concerns at the huge damage caused to industry
 

Hilly

Member
Well at least she is negotiating, different to those who just want to crash out with no concerns at the huge damage caused to industry
She has made a grave mistake negotiating with them, they are never going to offer anything good until the last hr, she should have them thinking we are defo going and happy to go no deal, i voted along with eveyone else for no deal , no deal should be what we are fight for, this deal stuff is nonsense.
 

Hilly

Member
You have to laugh. This is a man who openly stated that he would be happy to destroy your way of life, and you support him. :banghead:
My way of life has been enlarge destroyed by the eu, when i joined agriculture it was very different to where it is at today, more farmers voted for brexit than didnt it was a cry for change they have had enough of the nonsense they call the cap.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
I do my best not to take an opposite stance from the Dan at the time but it is difficult. My mum is over at the moment, of course she is getting on somewhat, so she did know a lot of leave voters. She says that a good number of them would vote remain now as they never envisaged just what a mess leaving would make. Plus of course, some have died...

Fair comment, but... both my cousin's boys will be able to vote if there is a second poll and they campaigned for Leave in the first one although they couldn't vote then. Their sisters could vote and were on each side, although only the Leave supporter did any campaigning.

Of my neighbours, one has three children in their twenties and thirties, two voted Remain and one Leave. On the other side there are four, one could vote and she chose Leave, two more will be able to vote next time and they are split. The chap on the other side of the valley has two girls in their twenties and they both chose leave, the place next to him have three in late teens and early twenties, all support Remain but only one could vote last time.

I don't claim this to be representative (even of only around here), but I do think that the youth are not quite as vehemently pro-Remain as many think.

My way of life has been enlarge destroyed by the eu, when i joined agriculture it was very different to where it is at today, more farmers voted for brexit than didnt it was a cry for change they have had enough of the nonsense they call the cap.

I just heard a Remain / 'Losers' Vote' whiner on Radio 4 claim that most farmers didn't want Brexit! Of those I know, I estimate that at the very least 60% are pro Brexit. But she wasn't contradicted... :mad:
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Industry has sufferd humongous damage in this country during eu membership.

Ithink you mean modernised to the point that , UK cars for an instance, now are welcomed in Europe.
You are perhaps too young to remember the good old days when we were trading leyland cars to Denmark in return for their bacon , except they would not buy them even though the local product was the Borgward .
 

Hilly

Member
Ithink you mean modernised to the point that , UK cars for an instance, now are welcomed in Europe.
You are perhaps too young to remember the good old days when we were trading leyland cars to Denmark in return for their bacon , except they would not buy them even though the local product was the Borgward .
Oh well , we will have to swap lamb for bmw then, or french wine.
 

manhill

Member
As a German Conservative being interviewed today pointed out, it's the EU that needs to bend. The winds of change are now being seen with the rise of the Far Right. The UK joined a trading group in the seventies that has evolved into a political one.
 

czechmate

Member
Mixed Farmer
Fair comment, but... both my cousin's boys will be able to vote if there is a second poll and they campaigned for Leave in the first one although they couldn't vote then. Their sisters could vote and were on each side, although only the Leave supporter did any campaigning.

Of my neighbours, one has three children in their twenties and thirties, two voted Remain and one Leave. On the other side there are four, one could vote and she chose Leave, two more will be able to vote next time and they are split. The chap on the other side of the valley has two girls in their twenties and they both chose leave, the place next to him have three in late teens and early twenties, all support Remain but only one could vote last time.

I don't claim this to be representative (even of only around here), but I do think that the youth are not quite as vehemently pro-Remain as many think.



I just heard a Remain / 'Losers' Vote' whiner on Radio 4 claim that most farmers didn't want Brexit! Of those I know, I estimate that at the very least 60% are pro Brexit. But she wasn't contradicted... :mad:


It’s a regular thing now where the news goes out somewhere and gets the views of one of each side. Quite often the leaver is the younger.
It would be interesting to see it done for real but it doesn’t strike me as at all likely to happen so most likely will always be speculation.
 

Danllan

Member
Location
Sir Gar / Carms
It’s a regular thing now where the news goes out somewhere and gets the views of one of each side. Quite often the leaver is the younger.
It would be interesting to see it done for real but it doesn’t strike me as at all likely to happen so most likely will always be speculation.
Odd, the news interviews I have seen generally show the 'Remainer' as the younger... but, then, I am not a great believer in the veracity of much of the media's self-proclaimed independence, including those that generally favour my politics.
 

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