Plough weight
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be very light on front end, would depend on how good the hydraulics are,
but if you can hold the front end down, then I think it will
but if you can hold the front end down, then I think it will
Fine in the field (Richard Ingram has one) and as John said would be very light on the front end. Danger zone is whilst driving it up loading ramps onto a trailer which makes the front end even lighter and less controllable. Most people who plough with small tractors have some degree of weight on the front. Some just put it on to lad up and take it off to plough with.
Be careful. One or two men have come to grief off loading ramps before today.
If it starts to go on you it’s game over. You will be hard pressed to righten it. Enter the argument - latch independent brakes or leave them separate. I - having size 13 feet - always leave them separate. OK if that’s what you are used to but for somebody stabbing at the brakes - tragedy
Be careful. One or two men have come to grief off loading ramps before today.
If it starts to go on you it’s game over. You will be hard pressed to righten it. Enter the argument - latch independent brakes or leave them separate. I - having size 13 feet - always leave them separate. OK if that’s what you are used to but for somebody stabbing at the brakes - tragedy
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One danger not mentioned is the raised centre of gravity with a reversible . On a side slope the effects can be alarming, especially when going up ramps at the same time. I was once obliged to park on a slight side slope at Sherwood and scared the living daylights out of myself when loading up and that was with a conventional plough.
Which model plough has he got ?.
Must have something of a similar weight he can try it with. Weight a conventional plough accordingly to see how you go. Might be as well to invest in or make a weight frame for the front - unless you have some front wheel weights.
Hydraulic capability of a good hydraulic system is not an issue but there are many things that can impact on a system that’s getting tired.
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- 200 miles N,NW of New York
This is very true, i have a B275 and it has the IHC cast front weight fitted, and it will not drive up and onto the lorry due to being that light on the front end, and that is with a Ransomes TS81 on TCN with a full set of discs and skims,
also a land wheel fitted, they are heavy due to everything being set further back well behind the cross shaft,
and as @arcobob say very unstable on a side bank, I have my check chains set, so when in work they are slack to allow side ways moment, yet when lifted up to the top they are locked, this stops any side ways swing, its not the swing thats the problem, its when it comes to a stop swinging down the hill and then takes the tractor with it, i have seen the same happen with a haybob, that tipped the tractor over,
the only way i can load mine safely is to unhitch the plough and lift on with the Hiab and drive tractor on the lorry,
might be not so bad backing onto a low trailer, but it will need a long trailer due to the length of the plough, and even then it with the trailer will be over 3.5 tonne so towing it with a 4x4 will be no good
I am inclined to think that these Ransomes ploughs were not designed for 1.5 tonne tractors and, though they can be worked, they are not altogether safe. Perhaps better to look for a Huard/Massey plough on a lighter frame .
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- 200 miles N,NW of New York
B275 manages it on the level, and have to be careful on a side bank, especially when lifted and turning it over,
but yes would be better on a bigger tractor
but yes would be better on a bigger tractor
Mydexta
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He had a frame made, which enabled him to pick up the plough from the side for loading and unloading on his trailer
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now that would be a good idea, weight will be lot nearer the tractor, and not as long a trailer needed
Kildare
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Why not reverse up the ramp
Fergie Ploughman
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I always reverse up on my truck, much safer and controlled in my mind...
It almost always results in the weight being too far back with the inevitable scary sensation of towing a snake. The point of balance is between the rear axle and the front of the rear wheel and there are few trailers where you can reverse up to put this point just in front of the trailer axles mid point..
Did he run over the hedge Trimmer?
Feasible on most trucks but seldom on trailers.
rusty nuts
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Stay safe buy a massey 65 or nuffield 460 first wet match you will not move with a small tractor.Spent twenty years ploughing with a ransome ts82 can set one up with me eyes shut. The only differance between a ts81 and ts82 is the turn over on the headstock.
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Chap not a million miles from here reverses an RSLD onto his trailer then backs the tractor up to it. The rear wheel is on a special bracket and nearly touches the car. The tractor only just goes on. Trailer - here’s the difference - specially made to give the right axle loadings.
Can be disastrous if your trailer is loaded wrong. Have seen all sorts including a major overshooting the trailer and being stuck in the back of the car.
Can have consequences if loaded wrong. Guy from North Lincs got stopped crossing the Humber bridge. Had a DB780 on with a two furrow Ransomes plough - obviously within train weight but overloaded on one axle. Would not let him move it on the trailer to correct the situation. VOSA recovered it and he was fined for overloading. Cost him £2 grand.
Blimey this has gone off on a tangent, my friends 35x has water ballasted rear wheels, front inner and outer wheel weights and he has a front weight frame and access to a full set of weights, I just need to know from someone who has or had a similar plough TSR 82 or 102 wether the tractor will lift it comfortably.
TIA
TIA