Pneumonia

bruce9001

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Location
Highlands
If its one that is really bad we usually just give them Pen & Strep (go for 3 days if it is really bad) and a dose of Metacam for the swelling!!

With our new sheds in the last 2 years only had a small handful and most were caught that early we just hot with Alamycin LA and metacam which cleared them right up!


Never had any further trouble once started doing it this eay!
 

Henarar

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
I don't believe in treating every animal with a temperature. Cattle with virus will not benifit from antibiotics, unless there is a secondary infection. I have plenty of outwintered cattle that will have snotty noses for a couple of days due to having a virus, many of whom will have a bit of a temp, but because they are outside, bacterial infections are not really an issue. Bacterial infection will usually only occur where the environment is suitable. Perhaps if more mild temperatures are common or becoming more common, management may have to be altered to suit
So what would the virus be that causes the snotty noses @martin gribbon ?
We seen to get a few with snotty noses [ours are inside] but they don't seem to get pneumonia [ touch wood ] and as far as I know we haven't had it here would they live if we did ?
I did panic ones and jab a couple off bought in sterks years ago but I don't know if they had pneumonia or not anyway they both got ok and we didn't see anymore of it so perhaps they didn't
 

Gulli

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Yep I am because im a very good cattle man.

Like some farmers at market can guess an animals weight to within 5 kilos every time one comes in the ring ( this I cant do I add ) we all have different skills.
Yes I think you mentioned that somewhere in between suggesting there was nothing that could improve your sheep system and telling me that overuse of vaccines will cause them to stop working.
 
Actually, you are wrong again. There is a pattern emerging.

When you go through batches taking all their temperatures it is amazing how many can look 100% normal and still have a significant fever. It never fails to surprise me or the farmers. We have some guys who I'd call really good stock men who always have a thermometer in their pocket with their penkinfe.

We know that large numbers of animals with significant pneumonia (lung changes at slaughter) are missed on farm and not treated.
Very true, my wife and I used to rear hundreds of calves and we really struggled til we started taking temps (advised by the vet I think) . Loads of calves can be over 102 and look ok, if I remember right anything over 102 we used to jab regardless.
 
So what would the virus be that causes the snotty noses @martin gribbon ?
We seen to get a few with snotty noses [ours are inside] but they don't seem to get pneumonia [ touch wood ] and as far as I know we haven't had it here would they live if we did ?
I did panic ones and jab a couple off bought in sterks years ago but I don't know if they had pneumonia or not anyway they both got ok and we didn't see anymore of it so perhaps they didn't
I'm not honestly sure @Henarar, I'm not too up to speed on viral strains. I haven't treated any and they do fine. I'm guessing that if they were indoors they may flare up with secondary bacterial infections due to humidity and lack of air movement on mild days. Or at least that's what occurred every now and again back in the days when we used to house young cattle.

I just work on the thoery that the virus goes through the batch, giving them something similar to us getting the common cold, with a bit of a temp and a snotty nose, which antibiotics won't have any effect on.
And that the problem occurs when the conditions are suitable for bacteria to thrive, like inside a humid shed, giving them a secondary infection and usually a higher temp, and often off colour, a bit like us getting a chest infection.

That's my cave man understanding of it anyway.
 

Gilchro

Member
Location
Tayside
Seeing as I have now had 10 full days with the kids, think I need some entertainment....


Yep I am because im a very good cattle man.

Like some farmers at market can guess an animals weight to within 5 kilos every time one comes in the ring ( this I cant do I add ) we all have different skills.

Perhaps you should call for the cattle to be weighed in to the ring...

:ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
Well when we get pneumonia ourbreaks we do as bovine suggests and put them outside for a few hours per day. Obviously wouldn't do it if it was raining. Just go out to big handling pen next to handling system.
 
Location
Kent
Got a 3 day old calf gone down with pneumonia. Was breathing very fast but not rattley or snotty. Jabbed it last evening with Zuprevo and Dexadreson, little bugger seems worse this morning you can hear him breathing and his nose is now a bit snotty. Hopefully it's the drugs moving the shite on his lungs, fingers crossed and all that.
 
Location
Devon
Got a 3 day old calf gone down with pneumonia. Was breathing very fast but not rattley or snotty. Jabbed it last evening with Zuprevo and Dexadreson, little bugger seems worse this morning you can hear him breathing and his nose is now a bit snotty. Hopefully it's the drugs moving the shite on his lungs, fingers crossed and all that.

What is Dexadreson??

If it is worse this morning then i would give it Draxxin.
 

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