Pod sealant

[Lincsman]

The OSR crop here is the tail that tries to wag the dog. High clearance sprayer, drill small seed kit, combine bed mods, drying and storage problems.Might be easier just ditching the crop and keeping it simple here.

Depends, my drill just needs the low ratio selecting, the combine came with a vario header and already have OSR proof silos, spraying isnt a problem when the last pass is the astro kerb.

 

[ollie989898]

Tend to get very uneven crops that arent fully ripe without spraying them off. Slightly green OSR is a nightmare to cut.

 

[PSQ]

the extended header is a must for harvesting without loss of seed and maintaining speed of harvesting.
If you don't have one pay someone who has.

We’ve got a 20’ Cheval extension header for a NH TX surplus to requirements, if anyone is looking for one...

 

[dirty harry]

18m tramlines here . No contractor with a high clearance sprayer of that size

36m contractor?

 

[ollie989898]

If you can't spray it, swath it instead.

 

[Zippy768]

36m contractor?

Crossed my mind, but if you work out the logistics on 10/11 acre fields, not many tramlines will match.
Can't do headlands or turn on the headland tramline.

 

[moretimeforgolf]

There is a good choice of varieties with pod shatter resistance. They must be worth a look? Got to be cheaper and less messy than going through with podstick , especially if you’re not using pre-harvest glyphosate.

 

[curlietailz]

We always Podstick and dessicate at the same time = one pass
We have a self propelled sprayer with thin high row top wheels though
And this year for the first time I’ve taken hail insurance
Cost £6-7/acre
But the rape looks really canny this year so don’t want to lose any to hail
And we have an extending header on the combine which really helps when cutting rape.... it really does keep it all in the header bed

 

[DrWazzock]

Does spraying with glyphosate (i.e. killing the plant) increase the likelihood of pods opening? Or does it decrease it?

i have seen the odd bit of rape i missed with the swather hang on till september without the pods opening, ripening naturally, but I haven't noticed what happened to anything sprayed with glyphosate but missed by the combine.

 

[Lincsman]

Does spraying with glyphosate (i.e. killing the plant) increase the likelihood of pods opening? Or does it decrease it?

i have seen the odd bit of rape i missed with the swather hang on till september without the pods opening, ripening naturally, but I haven't noticed what happened to anything sprayed with glyphosate but missed by the combine.

Increases significantly.

 

[Trying]

Anyone applied a pod sealant yet?

 

[Matt77]

Anyone applied a pod sealant yet?

Yep, end of last week

 

[radar]

After struggling through S barley tramlines yesterday (V sticky glop), having to cope with some rape stalks added to that doesn't bear thinking about ATM.

 

[Brisel]

Does spraying with glyphosate (i.e. killing the plant) increase the likelihood of pods opening? Or does it decrease it?

i have seen the odd bit of rape i missed with the swather hang on till september without the pods opening, ripening naturally, but I haven't noticed what happened to anything sprayed with glyphosate but missed by the combine.

Glyphosate isn’t as bad as diquat for making pods brittle but yes it does increase the odds of shattering. If you leave it until September you’ll have massive losses as the other pods break open!

 

[teslacoils]

If anyone *does* want some, I have 110lt of Senate pod sticker available from last time at a good discount. Easy collection for anyone coming to cereals from the north, or south who doesn't mind a short trip north of Lincoln.

No use to anyone then?

 

[Brisel]

No use to anyone then?

What is Senate and who is it made by?

 

[teslacoils]

Intracrop

Carboylated styrene-butadyine co polymer and surfactants.

Apparently.

 

[Beefsmith]

Anyone use pod stick on their rape. I usually put mine on when I desiccate
Does anyone go through early with it at the green stage? I’m contemplating doing it shortly but wonder if it might not help the absorption of glyphosate later, given that it seems to be getting less efficient on rape nowadays anyway ?

If there’s ever a year to put podstick on it’s this one as our osr is all over the place in growth stages. Our flowering period lasted 12 weeks! By the time the whole plant is ready to harvest the early pods will of shred. We will also be desiccating to ensure it’s cut before the wheat due to our storage setup. I’ve been in our osr today and I’ve never seen it so varied within a single crop.

 

[Michael S]

I think that crops left to naturally ripen are generally less prone to shedding than desiccated crops and what's lost from a few early opening pods will be paid back by longer grain fill giving plumper grains.

As a side discussion in a conversation at Cereals it was suggested that Autumn CSFB damage could be reduced by spraying with Companion Gold because they don't like the stickiness of it; if that's true (?) maybe podstick would be better still?

Is there any truth in podstick just being PVA glue in fancy packaging? Could buying PVA glue by the bucket full be cheaper?

 

[Beefsmith]

I think that crops left to naturally ripen are generally less prone to shedding than desiccated crops and what's lost from a few early opening pods will be paid back by longer grain fill giving plumper grains.

As a side discussion in a conversation at Cereals it was suggested that Autumn CSFB damage could be reduced by spraying with Companion Gold because they don't like the stickiness of it; if that's true (?) maybe podstick would be better still?

Is there any truth in podstick just being PVA glue in fancy packaging? Could buying PVA glue by the bucket full be cheaper?

Certainly smells a bit like it.