Poland-Belarus Border

[nivilla1982]

Belarus migrants: EU accuses Lukashenko of gangster-style abuse

Two thousand migrants are at the Polish border and the EU says they are being lured there with lies.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Muck Spreader]

What's the betting the Kremlin is ultimately behind it. Exploiting the poor and desperate in their cynical games to destabilise western democracies.

 

[nivilla1982]

Just Poland at minute? Not Latvia or Lithuania?

 

[robs1]

Um seems strange how the EU wants to stop "refugees " getting in and everybody seems fine with that, when ukip put a picture of " refugees " queuing up to come to the UK it was racist.

 

[BrianV]

Um seems strange how the EU wants to stop "refugees " getting in and everybody seems fine with that, when ukip put a picture of " refugees " queuing up to come to the UK it was racist.

You can bet the Turks are putting the squeeze on the EU as well now as they must see it as a perfect time to threaten to let more migrants across, bet they've all got their iphones sat nav set for Calais

 

[Danllan]

Dislike the EU though I do, and utterly hypocritical though it is... this is a matter of greater concern. It is undoubtedly a problem that stems from Moscow. Belarus is a minnow and its dictator an irrelevance supported by Russia - if Russian support for him were pulled, he would have fled or be dead in a day or so.

So the question is why? Is it more pressure for the new Baltic oil pipe, to do with the Ukraine, sulking about sanctions, passing on some pain from China, or what...?

 

[BrianV]

Dislike the EU though I do, and utterly hypocritical though it is... this is a matter of greater concern. It is undoubtedly a problem that stems from Moscow. Belarus is a minnow and its dictator an irrelevance supported by Russia - if Russian support for him were pulled, he would have fled or be dead in a day or so.

So the question is why? Is it more pressure for the new Baltic oil pipe, to do with the Ukraine, sulking about sanctions, passing on some pain from China, or what...?

The problem stems solely from the Germans stupid decision taken on it's own without consulting the rest of the EU to encourage millions into the EU pretending to be heading for Germany, now migrants from every impoverished country see the EU & UK as a destination to head for, you can't really blame Turkey or Belarus for wanting to offload the hundreds of thousands crossing the border into their countries on their way!

 

[Exfarmer]

The problem stems solely from the Germans stupid decision taken on it's own without consulting the rest of the EU to encourage millions into the EU pretending to be heading for Germany, now migrants from every impoverished country see the EU & UK as a destination to head for, you can't really blame Turkey or Belarus for wanting to offload the hundreds of thousands crossing the border into their countries on their way!

Complete and utter cock!
This is about the Belarus dictator trying to hang on to power and the Poles rightly giving shelter to anti Lukashenko dissidents and further shutting air corridors across Poland to Bellarus

 

[BrianV]

Complete and utter cock!
This is about the Belarus dictator trying to hang on to power and the Poles rightly giving shelter to anti Lukashenko dissidents and further shutting air corridors across Poland to Bellarus

So all these migrants at the Polish border chanting Germany Germany has nothing to do with Merkles previous invitation to migrants, why should these other countries such as Bellarus & Turkey be expected to put up with the floods of migrants heading for Europe?
The EU are not paying Turkey billions to keep them for nothing if the migrants did not want to head towards the EU!

 

[le bon paysan]

Report on Belarus flying in refugees, giving them a visa, then driving them to the Polish border and abandoning them in no mans land. If they stay ,they starve, return to Belarus and they are beaten back into no mans land. Try to get into Poland, they are beaten and forced back.

On Poland's Border With Belarus, A Syrian Refugee's Desperate Battle To Save His Family

While he made frantic calls from a hotel near the Belarusian border, his family hid in a frigid forest ditch, desperate to evade Polish patrols. A Syrian family’s struggle to survive is a microcosm of a migrant crisis that Angela Merkel said was a result of “state-backed human trafficking” by Minsk.

www.rferl.org

 

[oil barron]

Dislike the EU though I do, and utterly hypocritical though it is... this is a matter of greater concern. It is undoubtedly a problem that stems from Moscow. Belarus is a minnow and its dictator an irrelevance supported by Russia - if Russian support for him were pulled, he would have fled or be dead in a day or so.

So the question is why? Is it more pressure for the new Baltic oil pipe, to do with the Ukraine, sulking about sanctions, passing on some pain from China, or what...?

Blowback from the plane incident where Belarus landed the plane with the journalist on orders of Putin. I think there were a bunch of sanctions put in place after that against Russians, so this is there payback.

 

[Muck Spreader]

It's a brutal game, but the message has to get back to the migrants that Lukashenko and Putin are just using them. The Poles in IMO are currently doing the right thing, this is caused by Belarus trying play international politics and its their mess to sort out. However, if the situation gets worse they should offer to let migrants though the border, but only if they agree to be flown back to their homelands immediately.

 

[Ashtree]

Of course countries, the source of most of these migrants, are those countries and regions, where the Bush family of Texas, interfered in the name of “democracy and freedom”!

 

[pellow]

Of course countries, the source of most of these migrants, are those countries and regions, where the Bush family of Texas, interfered in the name of “democracy and freedom”!

Are you saying that the Belarussian migrant situation is a direct result of the Bush family?

 

[Exfarmer]

Are you saying that the Belarussian migrant situation is a direct result of the Bush family?

about 4 times as many migrants come from Sub Sahara Africa than the middles East. However it is confusing as desperate people will take any route they think is easiest.
of course in the UK the biggest number of migrants by far is the Indian Sub Continent and the Bush clean have hade no more impact there than in Africa.
one of the biggest driver is the increase in communications and prolific profundity bought about by health improvements in these countries

 

[Bootneck]

So Belarus is allowing migrants through to get to the EU and the EU are upset... But France let's migrants through to the UK and its all fine...

 

[ollie989898]

This is happening across many of the Eastern European countries. People-traffickers make big money from getting people to Europe. This is not just happening in Belarus. This is happening in several other countries. It does not appear to be making mainstream news. I have no doubt that Russia has a hand in some of it at least as it is causing political dissent.

 

[ollie989898]

Complete and utter cock!
This is about the Belarus dictator trying to hang on to power and the Poles rightly giving shelter to anti Lukashenko dissidents and further shutting air corridors across Poland to Bellarus

It isn't just Belarus. Some of these Eastern European states have built serious border walls/fences and have an on going issue with migrants. It doesn't appear in BBC circles for some reason.

Of course now the fate of these people hangs in the balance as it is winter and these countries are often very very cold in winter. Authorities deny them shelter and aid and suddenly it is serious. Many are heading for Germany I understand.

 

[Exfarmer]

So Belarus is allowing migrants through to get to the EU and the EU are upset... But France let's migrants through to the UK and its all fine...

Not as simple as that, Belarus has been charging them and encouraging them to come promoting it as a back door route in. They have no wish to see these migrants in their own country but do wish to wind up the Polish nationalists.

 

[le bon paysan]

Not as simple as that, Belarus has been charging them and encouraging them to come promoting it as a back door route in. They have no wish to see these migrants in their own country but do wish to wind up the Polish nationalists.

Exactly, and some of these people could not have walked to Belarus. Young children, mother's with new babies, old people and family groups. Temperatures dropping and conditions they would not have attempted.