Polled Limousin bull for sale.

[Matt]

14 to 18m old bulls for sale.
tb1 area, high health herd
French sires. Maternal dams.

Herefordshire
07966413207

1st pic is sire of some. Proving to be easy calving.

 

[som farmer]

the obvious question, what's the price bracket, we are looking for a lim bull, or son is, me, the next question, how quiet is he ? PM me.

 

[Matt]

the obvious question, what's the price bracket, we are looking for a lim bull, or son is, me, the next question, how quiet is he ? PM me.

Depends on choice and also age. But anything from 3500 upwards.
If I couldn't walk in a pen without be concerned about one it's burgers.

The bull on the halter, that's the 2nd time he been on halter out side of the pen.

 

[som farmer]

the dairy farmers 'problem', to dear to use as a chaser bull

but exactly the bull we should be buying

we rear a lot of calves, our own, and bought in, and l am always saying to dairy farmers, esp the xbred grazers, use better bulls !

and the reason we don't, good bulls are just as likely to damage themselves, as bad ones. We tend to buy between the 2, and good AI.

Lovely looking bulls though.

 

[Matt]

the dairy farmers 'problem', to dear to use as a chaser bull

but exactly the bull we should be buying

we rear a lot of calves, our own, and bought in, and l am always saying to dairy farmers, esp the xbred grazers, use better bulls !

and the reason we don't, good bulls are just as likely to damage themselves, as bad ones. We tend to buy between the 2, and good AI.

Lovely looking bulls though.

Can find cheaper, but with good heavy bulls knocking 2500 about don't leave much if any room for semen testing ect.

 

[som farmer]

we have a good strong hereford to sell, we like herefords, with a proportion of xbred cows, in our dairy herd, to many red and white calves, some with 'funny' markings. Its a job to match them up, in good pen fulls.

we rear a lot of calves, to sell about 8 months old. And to get top prices, the bigger the run of matched calves, in the mkt, the better the price. Currently bought 200 aax off 1 farm, all by AI.

hereford will go, and either an AA or cont bull will replace him. Lims sell the best, but we have had 'issues' with calves by them, a 'bit' wild, you could say !

 

[choochter]

Tell me why the markings matter?

 

[som farmer]

spotty markings, and red, get a big price hit

and having bought calves, both B&W and R&W, as cheap/er calves, there simply isn't the profit in them. A lot end up as smaller stores, which the prime mkt doesn't want.

some will be fine, grow well, others don't, and its a job to get a decent matched pen of calves, to tempt the buyers.

took 2 14 month old red spotty marked hfrs, to market for a friend, we ran them to £240, made £250, don't think any dealers bid. Says it all really.

you HAVE to produce an animal, that people/dealers want to buy, NOT what you think they ought to buy.

cheapest calves/stores at the moment, are the top quality ones, farmers are pushing poor quality calves up, just because they are cheap.

 

[Skintagain]

Can find cheaper, but with good heavy bulls knocking 2500 about don't leave much if any room for semen testing ect.

Talking to a lad other day who is killing most his ped bulls atm. He said it’s just isn’t worth the hassle may as well just kill them and just keep the very best odd one to sell to good customers

 

[Skintagain]

the dairy farmers 'problem', to dear to use as a chaser bull

but exactly the bull we should be buying

we rear a lot of calves, our own, and bought in, and l am always saying to dairy farmers, esp the xbred grazers, use better bulls !

and the reason we don't, good bulls are just as likely to damage themselves, as bad ones. We tend to buy between the 2, and good AI.

Lovely looking bulls though.

3500 ain’t dear surely. Not even 2 skinny milkers.

 

[Optimus]

3500 ain’t dear surely. Not even 2 skinny milkers.

Can't be any money in it for the breeder at less than £3500?

 

[som farmer]

Can't be any money in it for the breeder at less than £3500?

plenty of bulls a lot less than that, on the mkt !

and l expect you are right, producing bulls, is expensive.

dairy stock bulls have a hard life, quite a few don't last to long, big difference between £3,500 and £150 up the back of a lorry.

and l fully agree, should be buying better bulls, a case of saying, 'do what l say, not as l do'.

rearing calves up, the different qualities of bulls, shows very clearly at a few months old.

 

[happycows]

14 to 18m old bulls for sale.
tb1 area, high health herd
French sires. Maternal dams.

Herefordshire
07966413207

1st pic is sire of some. Proving to be easy calving.

Have you still got the second picture bull on the right??
I like him.

 

[Matt]

Have you still got the second picture bull on the right??
I like him.

Yes I think we do.

 

[happycows]

Yes I think we do.

I’ll message you.

 

[Hampton]

plenty of bulls a lot less than that, on the mkt !

and l expect you are right, producing bulls, is expensive.

dairy stock bulls have a hard life, quite a few don't last to long, big difference between £3,500 and £150 up the back of a lorry.

and l fully agree, should be buying better bulls, a case of saying, 'do what l say, not as l do'.

rearing calves up, the different qualities of bulls, shows very clearly at a few months old.

In my experience, the cheaper bulls may have the genetics (often someone has bought a ped cow and AI it) but the breeder hasn’t put any work in to make them quiet and pleasant to work with. If you try and buy a bull and he won’t let you stroke him, he’s not worth having ime

 

[som farmer]

In my experience, the cheaper bulls may have the genetics (often someone has bought a ped cow and AI it) but the breeder hasn’t put any work in to make them quiet and pleasant to work with. If you try and buy a bull and he won’t let you stroke him, he’s not worth having ime

l think there's to many trying to be bull breeders, but don't put the time, research into it.

not to sure if l agree with stroking a bull, unless through a gate, or similar. Have had 2 friends end up in hospital, one lucky to come out, by having friendly bulls. You cannot trust them.

 

[Hampton]

l think there's to many trying to be bull breeders, but don't put the time, research into it.

not to sure if l agree with stroking a bull, unless through a gate, or similar. Have had 2 friends end up in hospital, one lucky to come out, by having friendly bulls. You cannot trust them.

I’m not saying you should trust them, I’m just saying that if the bull is too flighty to stroke when he is in the relaxed atmosphere of his original farm, then he will never calm down once “home”
Being able to stroke a quiet bull on a breeders farm means they have put time into them