Pollution is good for the sea......

Sid

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Molton
Guano isn't pollution.
What is it then?

If its washing into the sea from an island smothered in the stuff and I mean smothered, feet deep on some islands, isn't that what we would call pollution?
The same as an skittering of slurry or human sewage going down the river. All it is, is the fact that the ecosystem have developed around the "pollution" the same as ours would if we kept pumping sh1t in the river.

If an sheep dies it has to picked up and disposed of, if a deer dies it doesn't, both would add to an ecosystem.
 

Campani

Member
What is it then?

the same as ours would if we kept pumping sh1t in the river.

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Evolution works very slowly though, it would take a long time for the wild to adapt. I doubt farming/ sewage treatment works will be the same in a thousand years. and this is the problem just as wildlife evolves to our new world, we change it all again so it cant keep up.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
A friend of mine is a marine biologist. Pollution is definitely not good for the Oceans. As more and more carbon enters the sea the more acidic it becomes. Coral reefs and other habitats are suffering terribly from this.

The carbon age needs to end and soon.

The Great Barrier Reef ( some may have heard of it ) is dying from coral bleaching, brought about by acidity & high carbon levels

but our governments, politicians & policy makers don't care, so its all good
 
The Great Barrier Reef ( some may have heard of it ) is dying from coral bleaching, brought about by acidity & high carbon levels

but our governments, politicians & policy makers don't care, so its all good

It's very bad news for all concerned. In fairness to Australia and NZ, they have taken steps to begin to minimise their environmental impacts. In particular the fisheries policies they implemented, worked very very well.
 

Farmer Roy

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Arable Farmer
Location
NSW, Newstralya
It's very bad news for all concerned. In fairness to Australia and NZ, they have taken steps to begin to minimise their environmental impacts. In particular the fisheries policies they implemented, worked very very well.

unfortunately, our govts of all persuasions drop their trousers & bend over at the slightest suggestion by their puppet masters - the coal / gas / oil companies

Australia is ruled by the dig it out of the ground, ship it away & burn it ideology of over a century ago
Until we can get rid of these dinosaurs & their self serving lap dogs, nothing changes. Except for the worse

a huge amount of responsibility for increased carbon levels falls onto Australia's shoulders #TFSC's
 
unfortunately, our govts of all persuasions drop their trousers & bend over at the slightest suggestion by their puppet masters - the coal / gas / oil companies

Australia is ruled by the dig it out of the ground, ship it away & burn it ideology of over a century ago
Until we can get rid of these dinosaurs & their self serving lap dogs, nothing changes. Except for the worse

a huge amount of responsibility for increased carbon levels falls onto Australia's shoulders #TFSC's

I think Australia can make a tidy shilling in the future, selling uranium ore and possibly even storing spent nuclear fuel underground until it requires retrieval. Well placed to make a huge impact in the energy futures of tomorrow.
 
What is it then?

If its washing into the sea from an island smothered in the stuff and I mean smothered, feet deep on some islands, isn't that what we would call pollution?
The same as an skittering of slurry or human sewage going down the river. All it is, is the fact that the ecosystem have developed around the "pollution" the same as ours would if we kept pumping sh1t in the river.

If an sheep dies it has to picked up and disposed of, if a deer dies it doesn't, both would add to an ecosystem.

Are you suggesting that you consider it acceptable to discharge slurry/sewage into a river or allow fallen stock to decompose where it lies?
 

Exfarmer

Member
Location
Bury St Edmunds
Are you suggesting that you consider it acceptable to discharge slurry/sewage into a river or allow fallen stock to decompose where it lies?
The environment has developed over centuriesto accomodate a certain anount of dead and feacal material , its called the nitrogen cycle.
When I was a boy living then farming on the banks of the Ouse just below Newport Pagnell, the winter floods were welcomed since they brought down on to the land the sewage discharged up stream before the sewers were up to scratch.
In those days the river was full of mussels probably much to do with this effluent.
Since they cleaned up the effluent, the mussels have disappeared. Also the floods later after building MK above Newport Pagnell the nature of the floods changed bringing down a completely different detritus mostly probably washed off roads and concrete and industrial pollution
 

C.J

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Livestock Farmer
Location
South Devon
The Great Barrier Reef ( some may have heard of it ) is dying from coral bleaching, brought about by acidity & high carbon levels

but our governments, politicians & policy makers don't care, so its all good
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Link to AIMS (Australian Institute of Marine Science) report below.

 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Bit off topic perhaps but heard a report on radio this morning stating that birds on every continent bar Antarctic had been filmed enmeshed in plastic and other human rubbish
Shameful TBH


PPE is a particular, and new, issue especially masks

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robs1

Member
Bit off topic perhaps but heard a report on radio this morning stating that birds on every continent bar Antarctic had been filmed enmeshed in plastic and other human rubbish
Shameful TBH


PPE is a particular, and new, issue especially masks

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Photoshop, a mask would likely to disintegrate in water and the duck would peck at it while preening and at least rough it up that looks brand new
and how the hell did it get it over its head
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
Photoshop, a mask would likely to disintegrate in water and the duck would peck at it while preening and at least rough it up that looks brand new
and how the hell did it get it over its head
Dabbling. Or diving. The mask has been washed in the water, and might have been worn once only. There's an obscene amount of discarded ppe around. Some will have been dropped by genuine accident, but most must have been chucked. People have not respected their environment these past three years.
 

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