Poor cover crops.

[juke]

Our covers are looking quite average this year we are just putting this down to cold weather through the end of August through most of September would this be a fair comment to make up down the country or just our turn for some bad luck. I will attach some photos for you guys to give your opinions.

 

[juke]

Attached photos of poorish cover crops

 

[TelesnaAg]

Was the dirt smoked with pre-ems? Previous crop chemical program?

Ant...

 

[juke]

Previous crop was wheat, no pre harvest glyphoshate. Wheat crop was tremendous.

It had Atlantis last autumn , can't for the life of me remember what spring herbicides it had if any possibly Broadway star , t1 was adexar with palio applied a week later. T2 again I'll have to check also ear wash at t3 was kestrel

 

[Simon Chiles]

Previous crop was wheat, no pre harvest glyphoshate. Wheat crop was tremendous.

It had Atlantis last autumn , can't for the life of me remember what spring herbicides it had if any possibly Broadway star , t1 was adexar with palio applied a week later. T2 again I'll have to check also ear wash at t3 was kestrel

I thought Palio and Broadway Star were almost the same thing, did it have two doses or did your post mean that it only had the one?
Did you chop the straw? Was it direct drilled or did you whip over with some type of cultivator first?

For what it's worth my cover crops have been slow to grow although they are starting to get a bit of a move on now. We wasted a lot of time turning the straw so didn't drill them anywhere near as early as I would have liked.

 

[juke]

Just the one sorry my mistake, straw was baled off n straight in with the claydon, I think it's maybe grown a little these last few days with the warmer weather we have been having.

 

[Shutesy]

Mine haven't grown as much as I would have thought given the amount of moisture we have had, but I think that has been the issue, I think its been to wet which has cooled the top couple of inches of soil quite a bit slowing down growth, we have had very little actual sunshine in the last few weeks. It's the same with the OSR, lighter or better drained parts of the field have grown well, heavier or wetter parts have sat wet without much chance to dry and the OSR has gone purple!
Can't fudging win, last years cover crops went in and it didn't rain for weeks and next to nothing grew at all!

 

[SorenIlsoe]

Weather is the reason here! Totalt disaster and very poor plants. Last year we had terrific CC at this date, and this year it is really a bad picture. Very different!

 

[juke]

Think we can just put this down to a wet cold August and September

 

[4course]

soil temps are 2deg lower than normal round here according to agronomist same growth difference with catch crops ie not as forward as last year but now its past their sell by date

 

[juke]

Well. Been for a dig today in the cover crops n it might not be a total disaster the vetch and the Austrian winter peas we planted are nodulating like stink , roots in the mix are starting to get down, there's not a lot of top cover but this better weather we have had the last 10 days or so seem to have picked the crop up... So I definitely think it's had a bad start due to the rubbish end of August all of September

 

[Philip Hedeng]

It's been the coldest summer in 155 years up here, and that is the main reason for our CC to look pale. And very very wet. Later harvest than last year also makes a difference, and the fact that good wheat yields don't leave much N left in the soil to catch. Now we've had first frost so buckwheat is going down, which held about 99% of biomass looking at fields from the road

 

[dontknowanything]

The better the wheat crop the worse the cover crop after it, always happens

 

[juke]

The better the wheat crop the worse the cover crop after it, always happens

that makes sense had a cracking crop of skyfall from that field did 4.3 ton.

 

[Richard III]

The better the wheat crop the worse the cover crop after it, always happens

And I was so proud of this years covers, until you said that................

 

[Simon C]

The better the wheat crop the worse the cover crop after it, always happens

Yes, and the better the cover, the worse the following spring crop is. Look on the bright side.

I thought I ought to try an over winter cover again after giving them up five years ago, so put it in late, hoping it wouldn't come to anything but with this warm weather, it is flying and I will soon have to go in and knock it out.

 

[dontknowanything]

Yes, and the better the cover, the worse the following spring crop is. Look on the bright side.

yes, that is probably a corollary

 

[juke]

Dug these plants up today Austrian peas and some vetch also with radish ,. Do the legumes have plenty of nodules on there to create a fair bit of nitrogen ?. Pleased with the rooting so far that's measured at about 7 or 8 inches

 

[juke]

Looks like a mild October has helped pick things up from looking like a cover that didn't have much going on to this.

 

[Fuzzy]

Looks like a mild October has helped pick things up from looking like a cover that didn't have much going on to this.

What mix did you use ?