poor man management

[henman]

25 year old man came to me looking for accommodation.. he was cowman on a large 850 cow , 2 farm company ,he was looking for accommodation because he was leaving his job because he had only 3 days off ln last 6 months he was promised every other weekend off when he took the job. This dairy farmer has arable staff as well growing potatoes and veg , there has been plenty of wet days when they could have swapped. every body deserve time off or does the dairy industry expect staff to work 6.5 days a week

 

[vantage]

I’m sure the manager would step up to the plate!

 

[deleted user 837354]

Doesn't sound like bad man management to me. Sounds more like a fudging nightmare of a place.

 

[worker]

Doesn't sound like bad man management to me. Sounds more like a fudging nightmare of a place.

Are you sure he was telling the truth? Do you know either him or the farm?

 

[Kidds]

From everything I have heard from dairy workers its about normal

 

[worker]

From everything I have heard from dairy workers its about normal

I don't believe that for a moment, do you work on a dairy farm? Most farmers go out of their way to keep their herds person happy if they are any good

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

I don't believe that for a moment, do you work on a dairy farm? Most farmers go out of their way to keep their herds person happy if they are any good

I think the word most is a bit strong, I'd use the words small minority (but then I was probably a useless herdsman)

 

[Beef farmer]

I think the word most is a bit strong, I'd use the words small minority (but then I was probably a useless herdsman)

Not useless, just belowaverage

 

[WillM]

I can’t understand why he’d still be there after 2 months. You’d assume 3 days on in 6 months, the first 2 only had 1 day off. Doesn’t quite right to me, probably an exaggeration or just wrong. A guy I know out here claimed he worked 7 days a week as he included answering WhatsApp messages .... ?

I know plenty of herdsman working really stupid hours but they’re in the minority. Most jobs you see that keep advertising are the ones expecting 100 hours+ a week because their “old herdsman” was happy to do it. Majority of farms I know now are a 11/ 14 deal that’s more than fair.

 

[dairyrow]

Could be a case of don't you want the hours for the money type thing. Heard it alot around here and then they wonder why people don't stay on and can't get staff.

 

[BELOWAVERAGE]

Not useless, just belowaverage

Absolutely brilliant, I asked for that, to be fair I've been milking my own for 17 years and I think attitudes have changed, 30 or 40 years ago plenty of staff about and more labour on farms, employees weren't valued as much as today, today one man is more of a lynch pin to the success of the business as he'd carry alot more responsibility.

 

[supercow]

25 year old man came to me looking for accommodation.. he was cowman on a large 850 cow , 2 farm company ,he was looking for accommodation because he was leaving his job because he had only 3 days off ln last 6 months he was promised every other weekend off when he took the job. This dairy farmer has arable staff as well growing potatoes and veg , there has been plenty of wet days when they could have swapped. every body deserve time off or does the dairy industry expect staff to work 6.5 days a week

We have just taken on a dairyman and in his last job he didn’t have a day off in 3 years!! Albeit he had every weekend off, but still I thought that was savage

 

[Barmyfarmer]

As terrible as these farmers are I don't have much sympathy for the workers, you discuss your weekly working schedule before you take the job,if your happy with it you take the job and stick to it, yes things crop up and you may have to swap around for silage time/busy calving periods etc, you also have a set amount of days off a year when you start the job, give your boss a decent amount of notice of when you are going to be off work and stick to it.
If your boss refuses to give you the time off go and get a job somewhere your appreciated because any decent member of staff is an asset

 

[worker]

We have just taken on a dairyman and in his last job he didn’t have a day off in 3 years!! Albeit he had every weekend off, but still I thought that was savage

And if you ask the farmer he may give a different version of the truth...just saying

 

[Chae1]

We have just taken on a dairyman and in his last job he didn’t have a day off in 3 years!! Albeit he had every weekend off, but still I thought that was savage

How can he say that!?

Days off at weekends are still days off in my book. I

 

[supercow]

How can he say that!?

Days off at weekends are still days off in my book. I

Very very grey area!! In the real world weekends are definitely not days off and are seen as the minimal to have a life!

 

[henman]

Are you sure he was telling the truth? Do you know either him or the farm?

knowing the manger yes

 

[Ffermer Bach]

How can he say that!?

Days off at weekends are still days off in my book. I

Every full time employee is entitled to 28 days paid holiday a year (bank holidays are not statutory - just the number of days -28) and this does not include weekends

 

[Chae1]

Every full time employee is entitled to 28 days paid holiday a year (bank holidays are not statutory - just the number of days -28) and this does not include weekends

Maybe so.

But you can't say you've had no days off in 3 years, when in reality you've had every 2nd weekend off. A weekend off feels like a holiday to me.

 

[betweenthelines]

Maybe so.

But you can't say you've had no days off in 3 years, when in reality you've had every 2nd weekend off. A weekend off feels like a holiday to me.

This is the heart of the problem. You appear to think that three years without a break is OK (although illegal) and in most workplaces not working weekends is accepted as the norm, whereas you seem to regard weekends off as "holidays"

Let me ask, have you ever been an employee, and if so what hours/days did you work?