Poorly fabricated machine broken,where do I stand?

thesilentone

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Cumbria
My only comment is, buy from a reputable dealer. It is his reputation on the line as well as his suppliers. Good dealers sell good kit (normally) and look after it, and NEVER buy the cheapest !!

To be honest, there are times when it is just quicker, easier and less bother to do it yourself.

It makes me smile when you read some of the previous comments from experts on what is and what isn't fit for purpose...then you visit there place :whistle:
 
Location
West Wales
Everyone on here seems to be very negative (n) things go wrong nobody is perfect, they don't know there is a problem unless you tell them. Amazes me at the amount of people who wont go back and try and sort a problem and just complain.

I would also put the name of the dealer and the manufacturer on here when they've sorted it all out in a reasonable time scale too.

It's irrelevant how good a company is when things are going good its what happens when things go wrong that counts
 
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smcapstick

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Location
Kirkby Lonsdale
Everyone on here seems to be very negative (n) things go wrong nobody is perfect, they don't know there is a problem unless you tell them. Amazes me at the amount of people who wont go back and try and sort a problem and just complain.

I would also put the name of the dealer and the manufacturer on here when they've sorted it all out in a reasonable time scale too.

It's irrelevant how good a company is when things are going good its what happens when things go wrong that counts

Well said.
 

Jack Daw

New Member
Location
Northumberland
if it is that problem . It may have been abused ! . I sold new machinery for 15 year I heard some stuff in that time lol
The machine may have been abused but there is a cold weld that can clearly be seen in the photograph that is a manufacturing fault, as such I would complain to the dealer who sold it.
 

A1an

Member
This is so typical of the world we live in now.

Products being made to a price and not to a standard. Cheap Chinese/Korean steel that has the structural integrity of a KitKat. If the machine in question is dragged along a field with the strain going through that gauge of steel its not going to last very long.

The problem is, a lot people wont pay/don't have the money to buy QUALITY kit.

Personally Id suck it up and take it to a local engineering shop and get them to beef it up.
 
Question I'd be asking is IF the manufacturer or seller agrees to "fix" it, what will that fix entail and will it be enough, or better more than enough, to turn it into something fit for the purpose it was sold for in the first place.

If it's going to be a sh!t fix you might as well bring it local to get the job done yourself.
 
My two penneth on this, having previously built machinery, and now as a representative of a major brand - if it has failed the dealer and manufacturer need to know, if they don't know they won't fix it (either yours or future machines). That said, if you buy cheap, you have to accept you might get cheap - although I don't know who's design this is or if it was cheap.
A third point - consider the implications of machine in transport and modern tractors. We saw a sudden appearance of problems with top link points breaking out with the advent of high speed tractors and cab suspension, and were frequently asked if we had changed design/steel spec. Also be wary of beefing up one failed area and then transferring the stress to another area.

Anyway, enough of that, I've got work to do [emoji3]

Cheers

Rob
 

joe soapy

Member
Location
devon
Got to be worth talking to the dealer? No?

What's the worst that can happen? It's not the dealers fault, but they are your link to the manufacturer, it's out of warranty, but with the history from last year, the dealer may offer you something?......

All else fails get it repaired.....

Dont quite agree there, Dealers are by definition shifting machines every day and will have experienced poor design / poor construction enough times to
spot problems long before the user , If they have doubts about something that arrives for sale, it should be sent back to manufacturer.
Years ago we bought a grays loader that started to disintegrate because of "cold lap" welding., It took an engineers report to sort that.
At Smithfield the following year it was easy to spot the same problem on many machines displayed there.
Main tell tale sign on machines stored outside will be a feint rust line showing through the paint
 

smcapstick

Member
Location
Kirkby Lonsdale
My two penneth on this, having previously built machinery, and now as a representative of a major brand - if it has failed the dealer and manufacturer need to know, if they don't know they won't fix it (either yours or future machines). That said, if you buy cheap, you have to accept you might get cheap - although I don't know who's design this is or if it was cheap.
A third point - consider the implications of machine in transport and modern tractors. We saw a sudden appearance of problems with top link points breaking out with the advent of high speed tractors and cab suspension, and were frequently asked if we had changed design/steel spec. Also be wary of beefing up one failed area and then transferring the stress to another area.

Anyway, enough of that, I've got work to do [emoji3]

Cheers

Rob
I have seen a lot of '40KPH syndrome'. Haybobs seem to bear the brunt of it, as well as tedders, rakes and slurry stirrers.
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
OK,update.

The fitter from the branch has called and inspected the failure.

His opinion was shoddy welding in part and surprise at how it has ripped away.

The manufacturer will be contacted and we await their response.

To all the guys who recommend repairing it ourselves,yes the top link part for me would be an easy repair however it has also bent the brackets for another part of the machine and it has caused issues of lining these back up again.

Let's see what the manufacturer comes back with.
 

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