Post BPS Farming

[midlandslad]

What is everyone’s plan for their farm business going forward with the drop/reduction in BPS?

 

[Flat 10]

See double maths

 

[teslacoils]

As much stewardship as possible. Money into other stuff.

 

[jackrussell101]

Worse case scenario we put the whole farm down to environmental schemes and then take a job off farm.

I'm guessing that ELMs will be kind of based around the current mid-tier scheme?

If so then working out how to farm alongside a mid-tier scheme would be a potential way to go.

I believe that the current amount set aside for BPS budget has been protected for ELMs?

 

[jackrussell101]

I suppose the thinking by the government is to make us carbon zero as a country by getting us to do all these environmental schemes, but then we'll just have to import more food to make up for the shortfall, meaning in reality we're just exporting our Co2 caused from food production, so not helping save the planet at all...

 

[Ashtree]

For those who want to stay proper farming, good second hand kit will be dirt cheap, with all the others taking environmental schemes.

 

[livestock 1]

Seem to be trying to improve land here at the moment and increasing numbers of breeding stock. I’m not sure my maths can manage to get the shortfall of bps replaced by profit on the increased numbers. At least it’s an attempt at replacing what’s not coming I’m not sure what else can be done looking at it all

 

[Bossfarmer]

still waiting to hear whats going to happen up here, no word of any cuts or caps yet, quite frankly theyre unnecessary!

 

[tinsheet]

For those who want to stay proper farming, good second hand kit will be dirt cheap, with all the others taking environmental schemes.

Define "proper farming" I would like to know

Genuine question not trying to be an arse!

 

[livestock 1]

Hill farms aren’t going to find it easy with suckler cows and breeding ewes.
Those that have destocked to some degree will find it even harder to get back into a production based business when stock will be to buy land improve machinery to buy and more work to be done. I can’t see it happening in many cases

 

[GeorgeK]

Retiring! Had a good run and done well out of it if I cash in now, time for jam today. Feels like swimming against an ever stronger current, and in my specific situation I can happily make a good, clean break with no regrets. Onwards and upwards

 

[ajd132]

I don’t see how there is going to be enough money for all these stewardship schemes especially the ones that are £450/ha

 

[Hindsight]

Retiring! Had a good run and done well out of it if I cash in now, time for jam today. Feels like swimming against an ever stronger current, and in my specific situation I can happily make a good, clean break with no regrets

You will be adopting government policy then????

 

[Bald Rick]

Seeing as it’s less than 1% of our gross income ... nothing but I doubt we will be left alone
U.K. doesn’t need farmers ... just park keepers. Cummings and his cronies say so

 

[Hindsight]

I don’t see how there is going to be enough money for all these stewardship schemes especially the ones that are £450/ha

Mid Tier was originally intended to be competitive. And would have been if uptake of farmers leaving ELS had been greater 2015 - 2019. One of the reasons the non competitive Simplified Arable Offer introduced, to encourage uptake. Will become competitive now judging from the posts on TFF??

 

[GeorgeK]

You will be adopting government policy then????

Policy from the Department for the Eradication of Farming and Rural Affairs? Yes, I'm a strong believer in going with the flow, path of least resistance and all that

 

[ajd132]

Mid Tier was originally intended to be competitive. And would have been if uptake of farmers leaving ELS had been greater 2015 - 2019. One of the reasons the non competitive Simplified Arable Offer introduced, to encourage uptake. Will become competitive now judging from the posts on TFF??

I think it will be very competitive judging by posts on here and I think many will be disappointed

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Nothing. Designed my farming to be not reliant on subsidies. More worried about trade deals.

 

[livestock 1]

Seeing as it’s less than 1% of our gross income ... nothing but I doubt we will be left alone
U.K. doesn’t need farmers ... just park keepers. Cummings and his cronies say so

This is the key to it all. Would love to get mine down to 1%

 

[4course]

For those who want to stay proper farming, good second hand kit will be dirt cheap, with all the others taking environmental schemes.

doubt it as we will export all the good stuff on the boats bringing in the ag produce