If there is no discernible challenge from any external parasite beforehand, how come stock seem to thrive after a good dipping? Placebo for the shepherd?
I was wondering if they can absorb the op through the skin
I wouldn't have believed it was possible to dose sheep with OP if I hadn't seen in first hand.that's interesting.
Don't have scab at the moment but last year had a lice attack about a month before lambing. Run a closed flock with no other sheep for miles around me. Couldn't work out where it came from. Tups live in cattle winter paddock some miles away with no other sheep around...maybe came from there? New tup this year was quarantined, then all tups were wormed. dysected and had a shot of dectomax. Enquiring about dipping as ewes will go out on winter tack in November and that maybe is where they could pick up lice or mites (still in fields with no other sheep around)Ideally, you don’t want to stress them in the 3 weeks after tupping (so 5-6 weeks from the date the tups go in?).
If they have scab now then better done now than leave them 2 months I suspect. Or maybe you’re just dipping them for the fun of covering everything in a nerve agent anyway?
Unless there are pressing reasons not to do so...put your own dip in, go on the course, do then before tupping every year.Don't have scab at the moment but last year had a lice attack about a month before lambing. Run a closed flock with no other sheep for miles around me. Couldn't work out where it came from. Tups live in cattle winter paddock some miles away with no other sheep around...maybe came from there? New tup this year was quarantined, then all tups were wormed. dysected and had a shot of dectomax. Enquiring about dipping as ewes will go out on winter tack in November and that maybe is where they could pick up lice or mites (still in fields with no other sheep around)
Had to cydectin everything last year as no dectomax about.
Very difficult access to home farm so dipper wagon would struggle to get in an need options. Any thoughts?
Was it lice or scab? Ewes or ewe lambs?Don't have scab at the moment but last year had a lice attack about a month before lambing. Run a closed flock with no other sheep for miles around me. Couldn't work out where it came from. Tups live in cattle winter paddock some miles away with no other sheep around...maybe came from there? New tup this year was quarantined, then all tups were wormed. dysected and had a shot of dectomax. Enquiring about dipping as ewes will go out on winter tack in November and that maybe is where they could pick up lice or mites (still in fields with no other sheep around)
Had to cydectin everything last year as no dectomax about.
Very difficult access to home farm so dipper wagon would struggle to get in an need options. Any thoughts?
Don't apply and tip it out at night would be the most cost effective.Does anyone know if putting a dipping tank in for the first time, how much the EA licenses cost, or what the most cost effective way is to deal with waste dip?
I have a dipping certificate
Was in ewes but not all. No scabs but lots of itching and some wool loss on maybe 15% of ewes.Was it lice or scab? Ewes or ewe lambs?
Does anyone know if putting a dipping tank in for the first time, how much the EA licenses cost, or what the most cost effective way is to deal with waste dip?
I have a dipping certificate
Was in ewes but not all. No scabs but lots of itching and some wool loss on maybe 15% of ewes.
Not sure whether lice or scab so treated for both. Need to up my game this year as not knowing is a bit dull..and costly to both me and my sheep. Will look into building my own dip and go on course.
If I see itching in the meantime what should I do? Skin scrape/bloods? Advice appreciated....still learning.
I've been told various things by different people but I couldn't find a straightforward list of charges on the the EA web site. Somebody told me it was over £2000 to apply and around £900 pa thereafter. Seems prohibitively high and meanwhile scab gets worse and worse.I was reading a bit about dipping regs in the NFU Cymru mag last night. It looked very much like the disposal regs are different in England, Wales and Scotland. Something about an EA licence needed in England, but 'follow guidance' on land disposal in Wales & Scotland?
Scab is a notifiable disease.Sheep get a lift from dipping even if they don't have obvious scab or lice because it cleans all the cr*p off them. Wool will build up all sorts of dirt from flies etc. If they do have scab or even a low level lice infection the affect of dipping is immediate whereas injecting still leaves the dead lice/mites, flaky skin and cr*p. It must be like coming in sweaty and mucky and having a good shower, you feel better straightaway.
With the growing amount of scab around it's no wonder dipping contractors can't keep pace with demand. Scab should be a reportable disease and those who have it should have to dip.
Need a disposal licence in Scotland with designated land to spread on. Have to keep records of volumes and dates spread and pay annual fee to SEPA for the privilege.I was reading a bit about dipping regs in the NFU Cymru mag last night. It looked very much like the disposal regs are different in England, Wales and Scotland. Something about an EA licence needed in England, but 'follow guidance' on land disposal in Wales & Scotland?
not in englandScab is a notifiable disease.