Post Referendum and Britain is still in the EU

[its yourself]

Pity your not as vigilant at your roads borders, maybe then you wouldn't have an many arms in your Country...

Do tell how tight the control is on the UK land border?

 

[uztrac]

An article in" The Spectator" has cause to comment that there may not be an EU to come out of in a few months time anyway,due to pressure cooker sentiment in Brussels.

 

[Barleycorn]

I thought that CE stood for 'Chinese Export' anyway!!!

https://cemarking.net/chinese-export/

 

[roscoe erf]

same sh!t different day

 

[thesilentone]

I thought that CE stood for 'Chinese Export' anyway!!!

https://cemarking.net/chinese-export/

Under CE there are many rules for power products such as noise, vibration, emissions etc, etc. The Americans simply reduce the performance of their products going to the EU so they comply with the above. Here, we ' re-set ' the equipment to ensure performance.....sums up EU regulations. Oh, and this happens throughout the EU not only the UK !!

The Chinese must think you just need the sticker with CE on to sell in the EU

 

[byron]

If we are still in the EU in 2021 then the EU commission will give us a lot of pain mainly because of having the audacity to have a referendum. I think the EU will certainly want a larger British contribution to pay for the Budget, some of this will be caused by the UK government saying how well the economy is doing. There is a chance the EU commission imposes the Euro on the UK,, the right to UK benefits for EU workers will be forgotten. If the migrant quotas are still in place we will have them imposed. Whether this happens the EU commission will think that the British people are soft and decadent and are willing to through away the powers that they could have if the British people had voted for exit.

 

[turbo]

If we are still in the EU in 2021 then the EU commission will give us a lot of pain mainly because of having the audacity to have a referendum. I think the EU will certainly want a larger British contribution to pay for the Budget, some of this will be caused by the UK government saying how well the economy is doing. There is a chance the EU commission imposes the Euro on the UK,, the right to UK benefits for EU workers will be forgotten. If the migrant quotas are still in place we will have them imposed. Whether this happens the EU commission will think that the British people are soft and decadent and are willing to through away the powers that they could have if the British people had voted for exit.

Not one shread of evidence for any of the above statements pure scare stories .

 

[byron]

Of course this is speculation in my statement and could be said a scare story, but at the same time there is no proof that it would not happen

 

[Hilly]

all goods from outside the EU have to be CE marked with the relevant agreement number, if they are not, they are not allowed into the european union country of entry, The french ports are very meticulous compared to the light touch controls else where, The importers here face many more controls than the UK

Yet you have them queuing up at to get here, give them shipping containers to live in.

 

[JP1]

All this bunkum about less regulation and an efficient UK "Sovereign" Civil Service.

Did anyone else here Charlotte Smith on the radio this morning reviewing the initial findings on the report in to the BPS administration fiasco?

Terribly implemented

Three Government Departments who's interaction was described as "dysfunctional"

Senior Civil Servants from DEFRA , RPA and the Government Digital Service actively creating turf wars

40% over budget at £215m for the computer system originally commissioned in 2013

Evidence heard by the Committee as to why the Departments could not work together included "we worked on different floors" and "the teams wore different clothes "

 

[RobFZS]

I can't see the cut master gideon standing for this, he'll probably somehow make the rpa and defra merge, like the dvla and dsa

 

[alex04w]

I can't see the cut master gideon standing for this, he'll probably somehow make the rpa and defra merge, like the dvla and dsa

That is already happening in Northern Ireland.

The old Department of Agriculture & Rural Affairs will on 1st April 2016 become the Department of Agriculture, Environment and Rural Affairs. This will combine Agriculture and the Environment in one department. This will mean one less inspection as both lots of inspectors (environment agency and BPS) will merge into one Department.

On the issue of computerisation of BPS, the DARD system has worked perfectly since introduction. The rules changes from the EU over active farmer / greening / young entrants scheme requirements has meant that I am still waiting for my 2015 payment with no correspondence from the Department since 13th November 2015.

 

[Muck Spreader]

All this bunkum about less regulation and an efficient UK "Sovereign" Civil Service.

Did anyone else here Charlotte Smith on the radio this morning reviewing the initial findings on the report in to the BPS administration fiasco?

Terribly implemented

Three Government Departments who's interaction was described as "dysfunctional"

Senior Civil Servants from DEFRA , RPA and the Government Digital Service actively creating turf wars

40% over budget at £215m for the computer system originally commissioned in 2013

Evidence heard by the Committee as to why the Departments could not work together included "we worked on different floors" and "the teams wore different clothes "

They sounded childish beyond belief, a ruddy good cull is what's needed.. What's actually happened with the RPA computer system. Can't English farmers just do their SFP on-line or is it just small bits that still have to done on paper?

 

[Brisel]

They sounded childish beyond belief, a ruddy good cull is what's needed.. What's actually happened with the RPA computer system. Can't English farmers just do their SFP on-line or is it just small bits that still have to done on paper?

The English online software is actually ok but the interface designed for us claimants to get to it was wholly inadequate. That's the unofficial line from the RPA. The new demands from Brussels meant the IT consultants had to start from scratch, having spent 6 years getting the old one working perfectly.

 

[Brisel]

Ok, to discuss the others scenario to the Britain is out thread.

It's now 2021. It's five years since Britain has voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU. Cameron has left the stage and largely pushed Blair off the after dinner speech circuit. Merkel has retired and writing her memoirs. Boris ... well nobody knows where the hell he vanished to.

Meanwhile middle England has carried on as normal.
Farm incomes do what they have done for ever .... Somehow keep grub on the table and shiney kit in the yard.

What the flaming hell was the referendum about in the first instance?[emoji10]

Very good! Here's my vision:

It's now 2021, 5 years since Britain narrowly voted to Remain, though the media is still full of stories of the creaking & cracking EU dinosaur in danger of extinction. Dodos, hedgehogs... newspaper cartoonists have run out of fresh models of Darwin's rejects!

The soaring British economy means the EU coffers are increasingly dependent on British net contributions. The Portugese even quietly said thank you to GB for continuing to keep them in the Euro after Greece was finally written off and its few remaining assets repossessed in 2017. Turkey are desparate to join but Brussles keeps turning them down, saying that they just can't afford them, even in the newly formed 2nd Division Southern EU states alliance (=dole queue). The £ has been going up against the Euro and the Single Currency is less tha a year from collapse. British mint factories have made a record profit printing Lira, Marks and Francs in anticipation of the end.

The mini revolt of 2018 when Brussels tried in no uncertain terms to force Britain to join the Euro failed - Britain didn't even need a referendum for that. They just put a division of troops on a few ferries & were met by a white flag from a French squad, surrendering again. Damn, why didn't the EU raise an army to annex Britain while it still had some cash? (Sorry France - I just couldn't resist that one! )

Thanks to the strong £ VW/Audi and BMW have posted record profits again but British farmers haven't fared so well. The BPS is now worth £25/acre in non SDA regions, so many farmers have just said "fudge it" and are no longer bothering with Stewardship or claiming BPS as they don't have to worry about Cross Compliance any more. That costs at east £30/acre but Whitehall just don't under stand the concept of cost vs benefit. The Environment Agency is basically broke due to the costs of dragging smug farmers (what is left of them) into court instead of just deducting some of their BPS payments. Britain now imports 80% of it's food as few British farmers can compete with the imports from Ireland & mainland Europe. Only the banks, City & IT firms are really doing well though Labour Prime Minister Andy Burnham has just withdrawn Agricultural Property Relief because he was so incensed that the late James Dyson only paid £4.55 in tax last year, including death duties. Jake Dyson and Beeswax, meanwhile, are busy trying to create the biggest field in Britain but was stopped by the A16, M180, North Sea and A17 (the Yellowbellies will get that one). The rest of Britain's farmers are either direct drilling or running grass based extensive livestock units, selling off the farm houses to tax exiles from Germany. Goerge Monbiot is like a dog with two dicks - he got his rewilding in the uplands when they became unviable to farm & the farmers walked off the land but he is now villified because the place looks a bloody mess & the lowland still floods every time it rains.

Strange - if the Brexit had happened, the Civil Service would still have been the largest employer in the UK (thanks to yet more EU regs) and I as a farm manager would have still been a Park Ranger instead, just as I am now. Funny how things happen either way, isn't it!

 

[Muck Spreader]

The English online software is actually ok but the interface designed for us claimants to get to it was wholly inadequate. That's the unofficial line from the RPA. The new demands from Brussels meant the IT consultants had to start from scratch, having spent 6 years getting the old one working perfectly.

Thank's I was just wondering. The French system is very good (amazingly) and has been ever since we came here. They had to quite a bit of work the the mapping this year due to the EU imposing a fine, but it's now clever enough to automatically plot your field boundaries even under big tree canopies and id pond and scrub areas.

 

[renewablejohn]

Well if we remain in Europe expect more of this red tape.

http://www.out-law.com/en/topics/in...ncy-ii-the-eu-regulatory-regime-for-insurers/

 

[Muck Spreader]

Well if we remain in Europe expect more of this red tape.

http://www.out-law.com/en/topics/in...ncy-ii-the-eu-regulatory-regime-for-insurers/

So what's wrong with it? It's probably more work if you are a large insurance company, but good news if you are a consumer.

 

[Brisel]

It will add admin costs which the industry will pass onto us.

 

[Muck Spreader]

It will add admin costs which the industry will pass onto us.

Maybe the government should set limits or allow other companies to contact you if you have been with the same insurance company for more than three years. Nothing like a free market controlled by the government.