Power Harrow Combis, Are they really any good?

Very popular around here . A few have tried other methods , even the bigger farms , but most have returned to the plough followed by a combination drill. Can do in one pass and is weather proof. Can’t see that I’m knackering the soil anymore than anyone else , or we wouldn’t get decent crops.
perfect after maize or beet late harvested, as you can keep tight behind the plough.
I sometimes drive both outfits. Plough a bit, drill a bit . Not the quickest , but it gets done .View attachment 910966View attachment 910967

No plough or powerharrow thread could possibly be complete without some Silverfox soil or crop pornography.

Now you can explain how you drive one tractor whilst controlling the other using just the power of your mind?
 

britt

Member
BASE UK Member
I drilled wheat for a neighbour last backend. The field was like a swamp. I was carrying power harrow on lift most of time. Diff lock in to keep moving. I was positive it wouldn't grow. So wasn't that bothered what it looked like.

Heard last week it did 5t/acre! :ROFLMAO:

Its away from road so never saw it again.

I also had headlands of winter barley I puddled in at home. Didn't grow.
I have neighbor like that. :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
I had one for a few years and thought it was brilliant, compared to doing the two jobs separately, it was. But faster methods are available.
They need to be able to go in more varied conditions because it takes so much longer to get your area of drilling done.
 

yellowbelly

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Livestock Farmer
Location
N.Lincs
They need to be able to go in more varied conditions because it takes so much longer to get your area of drilling done.
Yeah, but the nub is, it does get it done.

We've drilled thousands of acres with a combi drill. Used to contract drill a thousand acres a year with a 4 metre, year in year out, wet years, dry years, however they came. On a full range of soil types, from blowing sand to strong 'owd kelt'

Every day was a drilling day - you had to be organised, prepared to change plans to suit the weather and pick land off, as and when it would go.
Minimally cultivated land, and strong land that needed more than just a power harrowing, first and when the weather broke, tight up behind the plough. We drilled right up to the furrow every night and if it rained in the night you could start again first thing in the morning.

You can even drill in the rain, if you've a big enough plough with a good bloke driving it, in front of you.

It took longer to fill the drill in them days too......
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Nearly

Member
Location
North of York
Very popular around here . A few have tried other methods , even the bigger farms , but most have returned to the plough followed by a combination drill. Can do in one pass and is weather proof. Can’t see that I’m knackering the soil anymore than anyone else , or we wouldn’t get decent crops.
perfect after maize or beet late harvested, as you can keep tight behind the plough.
I sometimes drive both outfits. Plough a bit, drill a bit . Not the quickest , but it gets done .View attachment 910966View attachment 910967
I did the same last year.
Better going this year but not ploughing too much up in front.
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Foxcover

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Very popular around here . A few have tried other methods , even the bigger farms , but most have returned to the plough followed by a combination drill. Can do in one pass and is weather proof. Can’t see that I’m knackering the soil anymore than anyone else , or we wouldn’t get decent crops.
perfect after maize or beet late harvested, as you can keep tight behind the plough.
I sometimes drive both outfits. Plough a bit, drill a bit . Not the quickest , but it gets done .View attachment 910966View attachment 910967

Lovely soil
 

MattR

Member
One thing I always wonder (still ph-ing and drilling separately here) is how it works on the headlands. Presumably you lift the powerharrow just out of the ground so as not to mush around the seed in the ground, and go on a few feet til the drill gets to the line? But it must take a bit of getting right, no?
 

capfits

Member
Seen some classy spring barley crops that have been forced in with a power harrow combi drill combination.
Late year soil was cold and damp, dry on top but not at 4 inches smear city, poor root development and rubbish crops.
Great in right conditions (like anything) woeful results in wrong condition.
Very good for winter wheat but then so are a multitude of other drill systems.
 

KB6930

Member
Location
Borders
One thing I always wonder (still ph-ing and drilling separately here) is how it works on the headlands. Presumably you lift the powerharrow just out of the ground so as not to mush around the seed in the ground, and go on a few feet til the drill gets to the line? But it must take a bit of getting right, no?
You drill the endrig last.

:scratchhead: Unless I'm reading this wrong ??
 

DRC

Member
One thing I always wonder (still ph-ing and drilling separately here) is how it works on the headlands. Presumably you lift the powerharrow just out of the ground so as not to mush around the seed in the ground, and go on a few feet til the drill gets to the line? But it must take a bit of getting right, no?
Always do the headlands last
 
Yeah, but the nub is, it does get it done.

We've drilled thousands of acres with a combi drill. Used to contract drill a thousand acres a year with a 4 metre, year in year out, wet years, dry years, however they came. On a full range of soil types, from blowing sand to strong 'owd kelt'

Every day was a drilling day - you had to be organised, prepared to change plans to suit the weather and pick land off, as and when it would go.
Minimally cultivated land, and strong land that needed more than just a power harrowing, first and when the weather broke, tight up behind the plough. We drilled right up to the furrow every night and if it rained in the night you could start again first thing in the morning.

You can even drill in the rain, if you've a big enough plough with a good bloke driving it, in front of you.

It took longer to fill the drill in them days too......
View attachment 910975

There must have been thousands of those accord drills sold nationwide, I know of at least 2 farms that had 6 metre versions. Used for years and years and years, 100 acres a day in good fields.
 
As title. Are they any better than an MF30 drilling onto power harrowed ploughed land after its dried off a bit?
To me the weight on the back of the tractor looks horrendous and the dainty little suffolk coulters don't look up to the job.
It looks like a steam roller closely followed by smear and cannon ball city at snails pace.
Tell me I'm wrong.
Storm coming at the weekend and it won't be drilled by then due a series of cock ups and unforeseen breakdowns.

We moved from a MF30 to a combi drill and it saved a lot of time. To get a seedbed for the 30 required multiple passes with pigtails of if ploughed passes with rolls, harrows etc. It all took time and mixed weather conditions to help.
Having the combi drill meant plough it straight after harvest and then leave it to weather till October before combi drilling. The really heavy soil was rolled in front of the combi but other than that the weather did the work.
I don’t actually think combi drills are bad for the soil either like the no tillers.
 

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