Power harrow drill linkage

[Tim G]

I have aquired this lely power harrow and was pondering with the idea of making a linkage to piggy back the drill. Anyone done similar who could advise how to? I asume it can be done as there is an output shaft for a drill on back of gear box.
Ps. I know the PTO needs a guard!

 

[Stoxs]

It will be heavy, all the drill wieght is out the back, if you look at a piggy back drill the hopper is on top of the power harrow your will be out the back a long way.
You would be best to look for a Accord or lely air drill that will fit . Or power harrow on the fornt of tractor and drill on the back!!

 

[John 1594]

You want something like i built on the back of our maschio, fitted a box frame with a pair of tractor link arms back to the drill, with turnbuckle stabilisers to hold them steady, then a top link from the frame to the drill, big bits of chain to hold the lift arms, job done. Can fill the drill right up with seed and its no harder to lift than a 5f reversible

 

[Alistair Nelson]

if i was you get yourself to the next cambridge sale you find either a lely one there or something that with some education could be made to fit for relatively little money. As mentioned above they do sit fairly heavy on the tractor so you'll want a fairly substantial tractor with ideally a front press to balance it. Most of these linkages are hydraulic so lift the drill over the top of the powerharrow to make it easier to lift and also allowing you to power harrow a headland without the drill in the ground, do you have a spare spool valve.

Hope that makes sense

Cheers

Alistair

 

[John 1594]

Id stick with the box drill, they are far superior to a pto driven air unit, and a lot stronger in construction, plus not being PTO powered gives you more flexibilty of running the p/h in either 540/1000 depending on its gearing, without having to worry about changing fan belts and pulleys etc

Found a pic of the "factory fitted" linkage used on those lelys, looks quite simple to build

 

[snowhite]

in france many use this type set-up http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/rotary-harrow/3157447/kverneland-ng300.html

 

[John 1594]

One thing i will say about using any time of up and over linkage on an older powerharrow, more so if it has a crumbler/flexicoil roller as opposed to a packer. The weight of the raised drill bearing down on the roller can bend/or break it on uneven ground, say if you was trying to level some raised furrows and all the weight was concerntrated in the center of the roller. Ive broke one before doing that, there isnt much strength in a crumbler roller, especially if its the type with no center tube from one side to the other.

 

[Bluetooth]

its got wheels on cant you just tow it behind?

 

[Stoxs]

its got wheels on cant you just tow it behind?

how do you l pick it up at the end?
this sort of drill is mounted on the arms and no coulter pick up , the wheel also drive the drill mechanisim no electric shut offs.

 

[Monty]

I've got the same to do as you. I bought a cheap lely linkage and a cheap Tume drill off ebay to go behind our 2.5m roterra. The piggyback is for the newer Lelyterras and also is an inch too wide for the drill so will need modifying. The first thing I will do is grind the bolts off in pic 4 and and move the bar back so the P harrow sits further forward on the tractor. John has beaten me to the scanner but something like the original can easily be made with long tractor lift arms, a long top link and some chains. You could also incorporate a ram for lifting the drill separately. But it's got stabiliser chains and looks a bit wobbly to me. If your worried about the weight or cant get arms long enough you could remove the crumbler so the drill sits further forward but I'm hoping ours will be light enough to leave the crumbler on.

 

[John 1594]

how do you l pick it up at the end?
this sort of drill is mounted on the arms and no coulter pick up , the wheel also drive the drill mechanisim no electric shut offs.

did he mean tow it behind on the 3ptl? thats all i do with ours, got a single hyd pipe what works markers, tramlines and pre ems all off of same service, pair of magic eyes, 1 to tell me when the feed rollers are turning, 1 to tell me when im tramlining

Its still a big step forwards from dragging an old MF 30 behind the powerharrow, mouned on a pair of lift arms and a 9 hole fergy bar, that was many peoples first taste of combination drilling years ago.

 

[J 1177]

Our first combi was a maschio dm power harrow with an up and over linkage (bought from my uncle) and I mounted our ransomes lift o matic drill behind the drill was about worn out as we had had it since new but we ran it for three seasons like this and was an affective of getting a combi which we had needed for years. It did have a bit of leverage but we found our 5130 with half a set of weights and the loader on managed it well. Suppose it depends what ur putting on the frount but I'd agree with John that its about the same as a 5 f reversible

 

[John 1594]

when i built ours up i found that the 1594 couldnt handle it with a standard set of weights on the front, so i built the front press out of a standen multivator linkage, with a single flexicoil spiral and a chopped up set of spring tines, i always run that with the drill although i have a frame which mounts on the front links and takes the normal tractor weights for when im ploughing, sticking them out the front an extra 2ft is enough to keep her in balance

 

[yorkie]

4mtr had same linkage as this but had to cross chaines to stop it bouncing as no wheels

4mtr kuhn and amazon with piggy back similer to this http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/rotary-harrow/3157447/kverneland-ng300.html used to 1500 acres + a year ,used to piggy back drill to do headlands and corners before drilling them,never had trouble with roller or bearings had it all on a 5150 later

 

[grumpy]

kuhn v amazone piggy back whats the differance?

 

[John 1594]

kuhn v amazone piggy back whats the differance?

kuhn will be heavier built and stronger, although there is nothing whatsover wrong with amazone at all, see there is a genuine amazone piggy back link on ebay at the moment

 

[grumpy]

kuhn will be heavier built and stronger, although there is nothing whatsover wrong with amazone at all, see there is a genuine amazone piggy back link on ebay at the moment

eh no amazone is tiger tank a kuhn a panther,but you mis my premise,whats the differance between the 2 when mounting a seed drill?

 

[John 1594]

cant see where there would be much difference? not what couldnt be sorted out with some gas and a welder Most powerharrows have some sort of brackets/holes on the back of the headstock what allow you to mount other things to them, such as an A frame for an air drill setup, or a linkage for a piggy back

 

[grumpy]

cant see where there would be much difference? not what couldnt be sorted out with some gas and a welder Most powerharrows have some sort of brackets/holes on the back of the headstock what allow you to mount other things to them, such as an A frame for an air drill setup, or a linkage for a piggy back

one harrow is in free suspension with seeder in tow so can bounce over stone,s the other is sat a top harrow which is a major design flaw.so which is which?

 

[stuart]

G.

one harrow is in free suspension with seeder in tow so can bounce over stone,s the other is sat a top harrow which is a major design flaw.so which is which?

Amazone is free suspend ?