Pre harvest roundup

[Suppin Diesel]

Need to roundup a couple of fields of spring barley next week because of green second tillers. Problem is I'm off on holidays for a week.
If I sprayed it a few days early at a lower rate will it work a bit slower?

 

[neilo]

Need to roundup a couple of fields of spring barley next week because of green second tillers. Problem is I'm off on holidays for a week.
If I sprayed it a few days early at a lower rate will it work a bit slower?

Not noticeably. The harvest interval is 7 days in cereals, so you won't be able to harvest it until you get back anyway.....

 

[franklin]

Green tillers will want a fortnight.

 

[Qman]

Sorry if I sound a bit rude: but Roundup is a very valuable product for farmers, I remember before Roundup raking couch grass roots and burning them. Roundup got rid of this horrible weed and now younger farmers have forgotten how bad it was. Recently the EU have nearly banned roundup and one of the reasons was because some residue was found in food.( the other was because the protectionist EU are frightened of Monsanto) This summer has been the sunniest for God knows how long and I find it strange that farmers feel the need to use it to ripen their crops. You should let that hot bright thing in the sky do it for you free of charge.

As for asking us lot what rate to use makes me cross, you should ask your agronomist. Roundup is a chemical weedkiller and should be respected, asking a bunch of strangers makes the end of Roundup nearer and I will miss it.

No offence intended.

 

[farmerm]

Personally I think pre-harvest roundup should be avoided as far a possible. In this hot, dry summer just be a little patient, a few more days in the field should not hurt and I wouldn't worry too much about the odd green grain from the tramlines.

 

[HAM135]

Scotland has now returned to a more normal summer, unfortunately some of us have little option but use glyphosate, showers every other day with very little sunshine and not a particularly great outlook!Sun please come back[emoji22]

 

[Kidds]

Sorry if I sound a bit rude: but Roundup is a very valuable product for farmers, I remember before Roundup raking couch grass roots and burning them. Roundup got rid of this horrible weed and now younger farmers have forgotten how bad it was. Recently the EU have nearly banned roundup and one of the reasons was because some residue was found in food.( the other was because the protectionist EU are frightened of Monsanto) This summer has been the sunniest for God knows how long and I find it strange that farmers feel the need to use it to ripen their crops. You should let that hot bright thing in the sky do it for you free of charge.

As for asking us lot what rate to use makes me cross, you should ask your agronomist. Roundup is a chemical weedkiller and should be respected, asking a bunch of strangers makes the end of Roundup nearer and I will miss it.

No offence intended.

At least nobody has suggested adding a bit of diesel to make it go further.............yet!

 

[farmerm]

Scotland has now returned to a more normal summer, unfortunately some of us have little option but use glyphosate, showers every other day with very little sunshine and not a particularly great outlook!Sun please come back[emoji22]

Agreed in those cases there isn't much option, going to be buggered when we loose it.

 

[neilo]

Sorry if I sound a bit rude: but Roundup is a very valuable product for farmers, I remember before Roundup raking couch grass roots and burning them. Roundup got rid of this horrible weed and now younger farmers have forgotten how bad it was. Recently the EU have nearly banned roundup and one of the reasons was because some residue was found in food.( the other was because the protectionist EU are frightened of Monsanto) This summer has been the sunniest for God knows how long and I find it strange that farmers feel the need to use it to ripen their crops. You should let that hot bright thing in the sky do it for you free of charge.

As for asking us lot what rate to use makes me cross, you should ask your agronomist. Roundup is a chemical weedkiller and should be respected, asking a bunch of strangers makes the end of Roundup nearer and I will miss it.

No offence intended.

What if waiting for that hot round thing in the sky to ripen the greens, means that the ripe heads are dropping off?

I’ve not seen the OP’s crop, so i’m Not going to say that he shouldn’t use glyphosate pre-harvest, for which there is a label recc.

 

[Happy]

Scotland has now returned to a more normal summer, unfortunately some of us have little option but use glyphosate, showers every other day with very little sunshine and not a particularly great outlook!Sun please come back[emoji22]

No putting any on the wheat this year as it's died on it's feet but barley will be getting the usual 2lt/ha of 360 14 days pre-harvest.
Maltsters up here like natural barley where possible to dry themselves at intake and so long as it's under 19% moisture after which drying charges kick in I'm happy to store it that way and save the hassle of drying.
Only need a few greens from secondary growth & tramlines to create hotspots in the heap awaiting uplift. Glyphosate dries up these greens and removes this risk.

As valuable a tool to us up here for this reason as it is for those battling repeated flushes of blackgrass further south.

Always needs 14 days to work up here unless weather is particularly warm when it works faster but for secondary growth will need that at least.

 

[farmerm]

What if waiting for that hot round thing in the sky to ripen the greens, means that the ripe heads are dropping off?

I’ve not seen the OP’s crop, so i’m Not going to say that he shouldn’t use glyphosate pre-harvest, for which there is a label recc.

I was generalising, not criticising, there is certainly a place if crops are very uneven, different if there are only a few green tillers on the tramlines. Have used glyphosate pre harvest but it has been where weed control has failen short. I would far rather we lose the pre-harvest label than lose roundup entirely.

 

[Al R]

Personally I think pre-harvest roundup should be avoided as far a possible. In this hot, dry summer just be a little patient, a few more days in the field should not hurt and I wouldn't worry too much about the odd green grain from the tramlines.

I’m with @HAM135 on this, we’ve returned to normal welsh summers where we had 50mm on the weekend and 9mm since spread over a few days, heavy dews which don’t lift and the mist is bringing in rain all the time - I’ve been in waterproof leggings and wellies all week.

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

Would be a nightmare harvest up here with no pre harvest glyphosate. Some bits of the fields are burnt with the heat and drought and other bits green as kale. Some folk in the south don’t understand what it’s like for us, seems to me that they criticise us for going ore harvest but they are putting on a lot more to control blackgrass and that is why it is ending up in water courses. The litre/ha we put on wont even be noticed.

 

[Jim75]

Would be a nightmare harvest up here with no pre harvest glyphosate. Some bits of the fields are burnt with the heat and drought and other bits green as kale. Some folk in the south don’t understand what it’s like for us, seems to me that they criticise us for going ore harvest but they are putting on a lot more to control blackgrass and that is why it is ending up in water courses. The litre/ha we put on wont even be noticed.

I’m glad you said that as it’s bugging me that the southern members always bring it up we use it at this end of the chain where as they are applying it at the opposite end. Be interesting to see water company data if it’s available and any spikes through the winter

 

[TheEarlOfMoray]

Aye it annoys me too. Have said something along these lines on here before and got shot down in flames. Every nroso meeting I go to and the subject comes on to glyphosate all the experts say it’s finding it in the water that’s the problem. Not on the crop itself. Perhaps the folk with bad blackgrass need to rethink their rotation rather than try and stop us using it so they still can.

 

[Spencer]

Aye.... Always been told, you can take a northern farmer south and he’ll get on fine. But a southern farmer going north will struggle!

 

[Suppin Diesel]

My crop didn't tiller well because it was to dry. Then the rain came and it put up a lot of late fillers that if I waited to ripen naturally the majority of the main crop will have fallen off. I want to give the roundup 14 days to work but due to going on holiday the ideal spraying date looks like when I'm away. That's why I asked would a lower rate work slower if I went in a few days earlier. Plus I wanted to tidy up a couple of spots of couch.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Agreed in those cases there isn't much option, going to be buggered when we loose it.

err, how did you harvest cereals before it ??

 

[quattro]

Aye.... Always been told, you can take a northern farmer south and he’ll get on fine. But a southern farmer going north will struggle!

There was a lot came up and eventually sold up very short windows to work in

 

[No5]

I thought there was more of a problem with glyphosate residues found in foodstuff rather than rivers.