Western promise
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Have you seen this to be launched at Agritechnica next week . 17 row 25cm precision drill .
Precision Drilling Cereals
- Thread starter Western promise
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- Location
- Lincolnshire
Saw a few drilling trials done like this along with others 15 years ago, the results were broadcast was best despite it looking untidy at all stages, but standard drilling was advised to make sure seed was out of the way of wildlife.
Western promise
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It’s been done before. But we are heading for more expensive seed with hybrids etc.
look at which manufacturers are just started to develop precision drills in the last 5 years!
look at which manufacturers are just started to develop precision drills in the last 5 years!
- Location
- Lincolnshire
How are they running at the moment?... any demo days... I need a laugh!
- Location
- Cumbria
It must be a great solution. The old way of calculating seed rates was OK, however today's soils and equipment make a much better seed bed. Add to this competition for growth and bunching and the losses incurred, I'll bet most would get a better yield by cutting seed rates by 10%, if you precision seed even bigger savings.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
Stanhay made a drill, the Dart, aiming at this market 20 years ago sadly it did not sell enough
The last time this fashion came around about (2001) according to this link to the FW they were supposedly planting at 20 seeds a m2, with 30 tillers per plant and a harvest head count of 600. There was a local guy with a bespoke Stanhay Dart trialling the system, but it was quietly shelved.
When doing my own seed rate trials at 100 seeds m2 I needed 6 to 8 passes of slug pellets and the plot was half a tonne to the acre down at harvest. At 300 and 350 seeds a m2 I needed a single pass. Low rates sound great in theory, but they only work in the lab not in real life.
When doing my own seed rate trials at 100 seeds m2 I needed 6 to 8 passes of slug pellets and the plot was half a tonne to the acre down at harvest. At 300 and 350 seeds a m2 I needed a single pass. Low rates sound great in theory, but they only work in the lab not in real life.
- Location
- Cumbria
Could be a significant saving, spring wheat seed now £550 per ton!
No BG......?
"20% less seed", so 240 m2 seeds versus 300. Thats hardly low rate.
It's a bit like the fashion many people have been led in to for planting wheat in November.
- It works remarkably well - until the year it predictably doesn't work at all.
Only 20% of the expected wheat area planted in England, according to 'the trade' today.
Western promise
Member
Monosem have been able to do this for 60 years , but have just done this 25cm version. Most of the trial drills use Monosem MS ( mini seeder) metering units throughly Europe not just on Monosem frames. Seed size is not a problem to a MONOSEM drill .
Aiming for more precise cereal seed drilling - Farmers Weekly
22 June 2001 Aiming for more precise cereal seed drillingA massive reduction in seed rates, combined with accurate spacing, has achieved better cereal
www.fwi.co.uk
Fair enough but not the same design concept as a high speed drill up to 12 metres wide capable of precision planting of all cereals.
- Location
- Cumbria
The step from fluted rollers to peg wheel should have also come with reduced seed rates, peg wheels onto a means of single seeds placement should come with further seed reductions.
So, I agree with PSQ in that 20% is significant but not huge, so maybe 40% should have been trailed also.
Plant establishment and health is better in addition to less disease and associated costs.
So, I agree with PSQ in that 20% is significant but not huge, so maybe 40% should have been trailed also.
Plant establishment and health is better in addition to less disease and associated costs.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
We had the dart out for a trialdrilling sunflower where it did a fantastic job. Spacing was perfect and emergence literally every plant on the same day.
however price put me off buying it
however price put me off buying it
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