Prepare yourselves for

[holywell farmer]

corbyn being the pm after next election, resigned myself to fact he and labour will be biggest party sadly

 

[Great In Grass]

A YouGov poll earlier this week put Mrs May at 34% for peoples preferred PM whereas Mr Corbyn's figures dropped by 2% (31%). You are expecting a big swing?

 

[holywell farmer]

A YouGov poll earlier this week put Mrs May at 34% for peoples preferred PM whereas Mr Corbyn's figures dropped by 2% (31%). You are expecting a big swing?

I went on election prediction last week said Corbyn 300 seats tories 275 next time we vote

 

[rob1]

I went on election prediction last week said Corbyn 300 seats tories 275 next time we vote

Did they predict cameron winning or brexit ? Long time till next election. Corbyn promised lots last time will have to cost it all out next time and surely the tories will try a bit harder, lets hope so

 

[uztrac]

I went on election prediction last week said Corbyn 300 seats tories 275 next time we vote

With your scenario is it better to be asset rich & cash poor,or vica-versa ?

 

[holywell farmer]

Did they predict cameron winning or brexit ? Long time till next election. Corbyn promised lots last time will have to cost it all out next time and surely the tories will try a bit harder, lets hope so

Corbyn won't win a majority

 

[holywell farmer]

With your scenario is it better to be asset rich & cash poor,or vica-versa ?

Not sure what asking there

 

[wanton dwarf]

We are in uncertain times.

Given the length of time of the Conservative government the swing is mot likely to be to Labour.

However, if the Conservatives can bring about REAL change in the UK then they will get in.

1) Housing

Immigration, Jobs, Wages & a sustainable future.

Within that there needs to be vision cohesive enough to carry the people along in the contract.

It's doable but the Liberals & Left - which includes the BBC - are actively going to undermine everything.

Also Corbyn is really a communist ... I doubt even those advocating Corbyn really understand what that means. The idea that those who live in London, who vote Corbyn, are actually better off than most of the rest of the country and have the most to lose probably hasn't sunk in yet - Just a matter of time. If they visited Nottinghma they'd drop Corbyn like a sack of cack.

 

[holywell farmer]

We are in uncertain times.

Given the length of time of the Conservative government the swing is mot likely to be to Labour.

However, if the Conservatives can bring about REAL change in the UK then they will get in.

1) Housing

Immigration, Jobs, Wages & a sustainable future.

Within that there needs to be vision choesive enough to carry the people along in the contract.

It's doable but the Liberals & Left - which includes the BBC - are actively going to undermine everything.

Also Corbyn is really a communist ... I doubt even those advocating Corbyn really understand what that means. The idea that those who live in London, who vote Corbyn, are actually better off than most of the rest of the country and have the most to lose probably hasn't sunk in yet - Just a matter of time. If they visited Nottinghma they'd drop Corbyn like a sack of cack.

Corbyn wants to take uk back to the 70s in terms off his policies

 

[uztrac]

Not sure what asking there

If the unthinkable happens and the labourites have a working majority,where should my wealth be,? and what will they attempt ? I well remember the 50's and 60's when the labour government talked about the nationalization of uk agriculture .

 

[holywell farmer]

If the unthinkable happens and the labourites have a working majority,where should my wealth be,? and what will they attempt ? I well remember the 50's and 60's when the labour government talked about the nationalization of uk agriculture .

I don't trust labour with farming industry

 

[Gatehouse Farm]

I don't trust labour with farming industry

I don't trust Labour full stop.

 

[holywell farmer]

I don't trust Labour full stop.

They might create jobs in short term but country suffer in long term if get back into power

 

[Danllan]

The divisions within the Conservative party are undoubtedly significant but, equally undoubtedly, they are being played up by the media too; there is a current hold on stories of Labour divisions, but they are still there and as great, it's all good copy for the press though, so once this story dies down Labour will be in focus again. However, regardless of internal divisions there is a definite unity amongst the Tories in not wanting Mr Corbyn in Downing Street; they just won't let that happen.

Taking the risk of trusting the polls - bearing in mind their collective record in recent years - if Mr Corbyn's Labour Party isn't a country mile ahead of the Tories now, and it isn't, the chances of him against a new Conservative 'unity' leader that will follow Mrs May are negligible. Any new Tory leader, who can campaign with half an ounce of charisma and that can give even just the appearance of holding the party together, will wipe the floor with Mr Corbyn. Labour know this, which is why they aren't out for the kill on Mrs May and her colleagues, delaying the inevitable.

The obvious question, then, is who will that leader be and when will he / she take over? If a change comes sooner rather than later - the whole party's least favoured option - the leader will have to be pro-Brexit and, unless doing an exceptional job, bow out at the party conference in 2020 or 2021 to give a successor time to 'bed in'. But if the party's preferred option is managed, of TM continuing until Brexit is complete and then bowing out, with it all then having been done and dusted her successor will need not have been pro-Brexit, and will have an extra year to bed in.

Very hard to say what will happen at the moment, Damian Green being the probable 'lynch' pin - a very apposite term. But if she does go soon, it is not unlikely that David Davis will be PM while retaining his current remit, later bowing out to Amber Rudd; if she, Mrs May, can hold on or is just told to stay, we can probably expect Amber Rudd in a couple of years time - apparently these are the murmurings in London.

The Queen is dead, long live the Queen?

 

[holywell farmer]

The divisions within the Conservative party are undoubtedly significant but, equally undoubtedly, they are being played up by the media too; there is a current hold on stories of Labour divisions, but they are still there and as great, it's all good copy for the press though, so once this story dies down Labour will be in focus again. However, regardless of internal divisions there is a definite unity amongst the Tories in not wanting Mr Corbyn in Downing Street; they just won't let that happen.

Taking the risk of trusting the polls - bearing in mind their collective record in recent years - if Mr Corbyn's Labour Party isn't a country mile ahead of the Tories now, and it isn't, the chances of him against a new Conservative 'unity' leader that will follow Mrs May are negligible. Any new Tory leader, who can campaign with half an ounce of charisma and that can give even just the appearance of holding the party together, will wipe the floor with Mr Corbyn. Labour know this, which is why they aren't out for the kill on Mrs May and her colleagues, delaying the inevitable.

The obvious question, then, is who will that leader be and when will he / she take over? If a change comes sooner rather than later - the whole party's least favoured option - the leader will have to be pro-Brexit and, unless doing an exceptional job, bow out at the party conference in 2020 or 2021 to give a successor time to 'bed in'. But if the party's preferred option is managed, of TM continuing until Brexit is complete and then bowing out, with it all then having been done and dusted her successor will need not have been pro-Brexit, and will have an extra year to bed in.

Very hard to say what will happen at the moment, Damian Green being the probable 'lynch' pin - a very apposite term. But if she does go soon, it is not unlikely that David Davis will be PM while retaining his current remit, later bowing out to Amber Rudd; if she, Mrs May, can hold on or is just told to stay, we can probably expect Amber Rudd in a couple of years time - apparently these are the murmurings in London.

The Queen is dead, long live the Queen?

It be tough for tories to win back support so can secure a majority next time

 

[Danllan]

It be tough for tories to win back support so can secure a majority next time

As I wrote, if there is a leader that will ensure the party at least looks united and who has any charisma, said person will wipe he floor with Mr Corbyn.

Add to that the grilling JC will get about everything from Hamas to reneging on student debt promises - remember Nick Clegg? - and Labour will find it hard to keep numbers up. The 2018 boundary changes, being organised to even-up constituencies, will not be doing Labour any favours either - many seem to forget these just because they weren't in force for this year's election.

 

[holywell farmer]

As I wrote, if there is a leader that will ensure the party at least looks united and who has any charisma, said person will wipe he floor with Mr Corbyn.

Add to that the grilling JC will get about everything from Hamas to reneging on student debt promises - remember Nick Clegg? - and Labour will find it hard to keep numbers up. The 2018 boundary changes, being organised to even-up constituencies, will not be doing Labour any favours either - many seem to forget these just because they weren't in force for this year's election.

Thing is Brexit could break the tories

 

[Danllan]

Thing is Brexit could break the tories

Possibly, but I think it far more likely that it will make them. One of the things we learn as adults, even politicians, is that 'we are where we are'. This being so, once Brexit is done and dusted the one major division in the Parliamentary Conservative Party will have gone and, anyway, due to general attrition and constituency selections, the following election will see a majority of prospective parliamentary candidates who are / were pro-Brexit.

Of course all parties always have had and always will have internal divisions, but these will be minimal compared to Europe. From 2019 the Conservatives will be more united than at any time since World War II; a united party that isn't headed by JC or his like will win elections.

 

[Ashtree]

Possibly, but I think it far more likely that it will make them. One of the things we learn as adults, even politicians, is that 'we are where we are'. This being so, once Brexit is done and dusted the one major division in the Parliamentary Conservative Party will have gone and, anyway, due to general attrition and constituency selections, the following election will see a majority of prospective parliamentary candidates who are / were pro-Brexit.

Of course all parties always have had and always will have internal divisions, but these will be minimal compared to Europe. From 2019 the Conservatives will be more united than at any time since World War II; a united party that isn't headed by JC or his like will win elections.

Have you just come back from a tour in Afghanistan? I hear the whacky backy from those parts causes even the most balanced to suffer acute bouts of dillusionment!
A UNITED Tory party (A brand new smiley needs to be made for that)
You even have a date in mind. 2019.
What .... say around twenty to three on A Tuesday afternoon.

 

[stewart]

With your scenario is it better to be asset rich & cash poor,or vica-versa ?

Are they mutually exclusive? Why not asset rich and cash rich??