Pressing ploughing

D14

Member
Would a vaderstad rapid be any good direct onto ploughing just to effectively press it and break clods? I appreciate its lacking a proper steel press but they look a heaviest bit of equipment bit like a toptilth type machine.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
I don’t see why not. No seed, just a cultivator? How rough is the ploughing? The underbeam clearance isn’t great so big differences in clod height might give it some gyp.

It will take a massive amount of hp as the rolling resistance will be high IMO. It’s well over a tonne per metre of width.
 

D14

Member
I don’t see why not. No seed, just a cultivator? How rough is the ploughing? The underbeam clearance isn’t great so big differences in clod height might give it some gyp.

It will take a massive amount of hp as the rolling resistance will be high IMO. It’s well over a tonne per metre of width.

No seed just being used as a press effectively. I went to look at a Simba press yesterday and sat next to it was a rapid which has more soil working elements so it got me thinking. The soil is clay but not terribly heavy bar the odd place and we’d be looking to catch the ploughing just as it hazes or leave it a number of weeks depending on following crop. Tractor is 250hp and I’m thinking a 4m version so we can work the disc and levelling board well and we wouldn’t be trying to break any speed records either.
 
Toptilth are cheap to run because it's only points and a couple of bearings. Think of a Vaddy, you have front tools and all the discs each with their own bearing, and those discs, like on a carrier are nothing like the bloody great shaft and it's weapons on a solo or set of Simba discs.

You will want 200hp on stiff ground mind to pull a toptilth at a decent lick and more importantly big tyres else you create wheelings that the thing will only cover up. Tracks actually would be ideal.

I am sure I played with a lighter Simba tool that was mounted and was 6 metres wide but folder for transport, I can't remember for the life of me what it was called, that might suit lighter dirt?
 

richard hammond

Member
BASIS
Would a vaderstad rapid be any good direct onto ploughing just to effectively press it and break clods? I appreciate its lacking a proper steel press but they look a heaviest bit of equipment bit like a toptilth type machine.
They will go into anything, Toptilth is good for working down land, but not a very good drill if that was the question?
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Get yourself a 4m toptilth instead. Any half respectable rapid is surely going to be expensive and too complex by half?

Once you've tarted up a toptilth it will outlive you and any rapid.

The OP already has the drill. Top Tilths also need maintenance and major spares aren’t easy to come by.

Plenty of old Rapids around still in good working order.
 

CORK

Member
Rexius twin. brilliant piece of kit , wouldn't be without it, sandy soils can sometimes be too soft for it other than that it copes on most situations.
Yep, seen these in action- a good tool. Why not have a press with the plough? - no extra passes or wheelings? If the ploughed up soil is too sticky to press right away then maybe it isn’t dry enough to plough in the first place?
I dread to think about the extra wheelings that a tractor big enough to pull the rapid or toptilth will create.
 
I've got a cultipress and a top tilth ,,,,, top tilth is a very good machine but if in standard format is not weather proof ,,,,, been meaning to put a DD lite on the back of ours to weatherproof it ,,,,,, but to be fair cultipress is weapon of choice for us in normal conditions ,would not consider putting drill through tough ploughing to work it down though
 

franklin

New Member
I did a trial run with the power harrow on some ploughing which was to over-winter. Wish I had done the lot now. Would take longer to dry, but at least I wouldnt dry it out with spring cultivations.
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
Use a furrow press on all our winter ploughing, makes a big difference come the spring. Often use our pronto as a cultivator in the autumn, a quick run over the hard bits then sow whole field.

Often think that there should be more use of old drills as cultivators. Looking at classifieds, old drills are often a good bit cheaper than cultivators, just take the hopper off and away you go.
 
Why not just a power harrow?

Speed and less juice consumption.

Rexius twin with right front tools can be pulled very quickly to keep ahead of bigger drills. Toptilth is the same, cultivation effect relies on speed. Much lower running costs as far fewer moving parts. Not sure what a second hand rexius would be.

Would a carrier with tines be ok for lighter dirt? Cant remember for the life of me which one I used was a long time ago.
 

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