Pressing reset - shall I plough a field ?

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
To be honest I have done nothing about this yet, been busy with other projects recently

Will get the pics and soil samples soon and make some decisions from there as I guess I need to consider what spring cropping I'm going to grow pretty soon
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
5 years ago you didn't have much skills or knowledge about no-till. didn't stop you though

that was learning a new technique not a new industry

Livestock is simply not really my thing, I enjoy them being on the farm but I will never make a great stockman. What we have right now is best of both worlds really with the winter sheep and we are stacking enterprise on the same acres rather than starting separate enterprises, to my mind this makes far more sense

know your limitations ! and I know mine !
 

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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
So what is the plan @Clive ??

Update would be great. Cheers.

Sheep are off now, they will have done it some good

Will get glyphosate soon as weather allows and go into spring barley

Not going to plough but I will run the carrier over it pre drilling to sort out the potential residual chemical issue that I reckon is causing this
 

phil

Member
Location
Wexford
Sheep are off now, they will have done it some good

Will get glyphosate soon as weather allows and go into spring barley

Not going to plough but I will run the carrier over it pre drilling to sort out the potential residual chemical issue that I reckon is causing this
Post some pictures of field periodically
Spring barley should get up and go if everything incl weather is right, no setbacks.
Don't rush SB
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
moving the sheep to it next week in phase one of "operation fix it" !

Plough the little Wooly buggers in. The highest yielding bit of this farm is the bit of former scrub where dad buried the fallen stock in the 1970's. Not uncommon to see the yield meter hit 18-20t/ha of wheat through that patch. It tillers so well that it looks like you could walk on top of the ears in June. There are patches in the same field that are equally bafflingly crap...
 
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N.Yorks.

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Plough the little Wooly buggers in. The highest yielding bit of this farm is the bit of former scrub where dad buried the fallen stock in the 1970's. Not uncommon to see the yield meter hit 18-20t/ha of wheat through that patch. It tillers so well that it looks like you could walk on top of the ears in June. Their are patches in the same field that are equally bafflingly crap...
Brings a whole new meaning to soil biology and recycling organic matter.....(y)
 
Plough the little Wooly buggers in. The highest yielding bit of this farm is the bit of former scrub where dad buried the fallen stock in the 1970's. Not uncommon to see the yield meter hit 18-20t/ha of wheat through that patch. It tillers so well that it looks like you could walk on top of the ears in June. Their are patches in the same field that are equally bafflingly crap...

My first thought is that this patch is not so high-yielding because of all the buried stock there, but because it was scrub for a long time !? So not tilled to death like all the old fields are more or less.....
Could that be ?? What exactly do you mean with "scrub", how did it look before it was converted to an arable field and when did that happen ??
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
My first thought is that this patch is not so high-yielding because of all the buried stock there, but because it was scrub for a long time !? So not tilled to death like all the old fields are more or less.....
Could that be ?? What exactly do you mean with "scrub", how did it look before it was converted to an arable field and when did that happen ??

1971, long narrow strip, lighter textured soil, runs along a slight depression.
DH scrub 1971.png


2000, showing up as a wetter area. The field boundary has been straightened.
DH scrub 2000.png


I can't help but think there *may* be a spring running along the depression (L to R) at rooting depth, supplying the plant with a 'Goldilocks' mix of nutrition and moisture, but if there is it never flows on the surface. Surprisingly the crop has never gone flat, but looking at my notes it measured 930 ears /m2 in 2013 (field average low 600's, no VRS).
I regard this odd area as a kind of 'rosetta stone' that shows the potential yield of the whole farm if every limiting factor is removed. I'm still trying to repeat its alchemy across the whole farm but with little success.
 

Flat 10

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
Sheep are off now, they will have done it some good

Will get glyphosate soon as weather allows and go into spring barley

Not going to plough but I will run the carrier over it pre drilling to sort out the potential residual chemical issue that I reckon is causing this
Leave a strip uncarriered to see if it makes much difference............
 

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