Price of land

[aggravated farmer]

How much would it cost to buy a good farm which can provide a good standard of living there?

Well if you are talking about you and your family, I'd say a few hundred acres. Beef and dairy are good business to get into. Though beef there is less money it seems and dairy is more work. So if you have some talent at something else I'd say do beef and work a job. I can do a little research in a bit and get back right quick about it.

 

[marshfarmer]

Renting a farm is different than renting ground here. I wouldn't trust renting a farm off someone. You can get kicked off right quick and I've seen it happen. Renting tillable ground is a big competition here, but we lease half of what we got. If you were serious about moving to the states consider buying land. In fact thats what the dutch have done. cost of living here is pretty cheap compared to the coasts and major cities. Do you and your partner both work the farm or does one have a job in town or what not?

There is only me but say husband and wife both on farm, but wife mainly with house/kids for sake of argument? Could you get started with say $2m dollars, or is that peanuts. I use that figure as I would say that is the minimum size of farm you could have over here all owned to make a living. Are there any sectors/areas where it is not competitive say beef. Sorry for all the questions should probably start a seperate thread, many come from uk to start up there?
Thanks

 

[grumpy]

Yes.

can you still get land for nowt oop north last thing i done was clear scrub in northern alberta for farm land,that was 25 years ago mind you.

 

[aggravated farmer]

There is only me but say husband and wife both on farm, but wife mainly with house/kids for sake of argument? Could you get started with say $2m dollars, or is that peanuts. I use that figure as I would say that is the minimum size of farm you could have over here all owned to make a living. Are there any sectors/areas where it is not competitive say beef. Sorry for all the questions should probably start a seperate thread, many come from uk to start up there?
Thanks

Are you saying 2 million in american currency or British? Either or, that will get you started pretty easily. There aren't many sheep farms around. One down the road from me. The other round the corner, a friend of ours that got out of dairy and "retired" into sheep. Dairy is get big or get out deal here. But a beef farm with a couple hundred head should be able to make a good living. Especially if you lot raise cattle and do your own crops such as hay and corn forage. It all depends on how much you are willing to do.

 

[marshfarmer]

Guide is high yes.
Last sold about here 13k /ac equipped spring 2014.
Point is since harvest they are not moving.

Small price to pay for the worlds finest land tho.

 

[marshfarmer]

Are you saying 2 million in american currency or British? Either or, that will get you started pretty easily. There aren't many sheep farms around. One down the road from me. The other round the corner, a friend of ours that got out of dairy and "retired" into sheep. Dairy is get big or get out deal here. But a beef farm with a couple hundred head should be able to make a good living. Especially if you lot raise cattle and do your own crops such as hay and corn forage. It all depends on how much you are willing to do.

I was using £1.25M to $2M conversion. Is the land price controlled there, is there any help for young farmers under 40 say, Im comparing with France. Its impossible to expand here, you cant afford to buy more and there is none available to rent, but I suppose that sound familiar anywhere.

 

[aggravated farmer]

I was using £1.25M to $2M conversion. Is the land price controlled there, is there any help for young farmers under 40 say, Im comparing with France. Its impossible to expand here, you cant afford to buy more and there is none available to rent, but I suppose that sound familiar anywhere.

Well you can try to get your ground into farmland conservation. Which will give you grant money, but other than that, you are on your own.

http://www.landandfarm.com/m/property/69304_Prattsville-726206/

Look around at this site

 

[Blaithin]

Theres a reason it's only $80.

can you still get land for nowt oop north last thing i done was clear scrub in northern alberta for farm land,that was 25 years ago mind you.

It's $80 because it's up north away from the population and a lot of it is scrub land yes. But you can clear it for pasture if you haven't bought a bog. I'd rather buy at $80 an acre and clear some bush than wait for a piddly quarter here to come on the market for $250,000.

You can work with scrub land. Cattle breeds that browse instead of graze for instance. Plus hay is cheaper up there.

 

[Kildare]

I read ranchers. net and i have read about land in nebraska selling for $600 a acre. then you read about some rancher there and it takes 20 acres of sandhills to keep a suckler and calf. You would keep the same animals on one acre in ireland. value of one acre in ireland similar to 20 in nebraska.

Presume same case can be made for grain land all over the world relative to uk.

I mean money can move anywhere very quicklet if there is a real advantage being there .
There are always other factors that affect price of land ,security climate,markets etc.
Land is probally dirt cheap in Russia. But who wants to try it, risky i would say.

 

[Grassman]

Land is probally dirt cheap in Russia. But who wants to try it, risky i would say.

Yes I think it's a brave man who would buy in any of the East European countries whilst Putin is playing the hard man. I can see the day when the Soviet Union is back.

 

[Grassman]

Land in small lots round here can be£10k to £20k acre.
However the higher figure rely on a lot of luck with a willing purchaser.
There is a few bits at the higher end that have been for sale for a long time and unlikely to sell.

 

[marshfarmer]

Well you can try to get your ground into farmland conservation. Which will give you grant money, but other than that, you are on your own.

http://www.landandfarm.com/m/property/69304_Prattsville-726206/

Look around at this site

Thanks old boy.

I read ranchers. net and i have read about land in nebraska selling for $600 a acre. then you read about some rancher there and it takes 20 acres of sandhills to keep a suckler and calf. You would keep the same animals on one acre in ireland. value of one acre in ireland similar to 20 in nebraska.

I make that roughly £7500 per cow, I could buy marshland for 3-5k here and should improve to 1 cow per acre, if not there. None of it would stack up for sucklers I think/know.

http://www.brown-co.com/land-for-sale/norwich/norfolk/norwich/limpenhoe/100005007756/

Grade 3 cereal land http://www.brown-co.com/land-for-sale/kings-lynn/norfolk/dereham/foulsham/100005008139/

 

[smcapstick]

Maybe it's time to sell up and emigrate.

However I have noticed recently that not all land brought to market round here sells. You don't tend to hear about the ones that don't meet the asking price and get withdrawn.

Farmers are picking and choosing, and without good residential or development potential, the speculators aren't interested.

There are a few lumps of ground around here that repeatedly come up for sale. They are all too expensive and they are all shite.

 

[young bull]

West Yorkshire couple of years ago land adjoining ours made £8-12000 for poor, wet land

 

[joe soapy]

So , any change in values. Looking at land advertised in Cornwall, seems plenty available and cheaper than it was