Price of new biomass boilers now RHI has gone

[BBE]

May be a bit early to see what effect the removal of RHI has had but I would have thought there must be a significant reduction in the cost of biomass boilers if they are to be economic?

 

[Still Farming]

Free are they??

 

[Doing it for the kids]

I doubt it, cost of steel has gone up a lot, any imports are likely to face similar issues

 

[serf]

Didn't even know they had stooped the RHI . can the old burners still be traded with the remaining term left on the RHI sold on

 

[renewablefarmer]

Didn't even know they had stooped the RHI . can the old burners still be traded with the remaining term left on the RHI sold on

Yes they can

 

[Doing it for the kids]

But the cost and ball ache dealing with OFGEM takes the shine off it!

 

[BBE]

Didn't even know they had stooped the RHI . can the old burners still be traded with the remaining term left on the RHI sold on

As I understand it anything with a pre approval has another year to get installed but now closed to new applicants. Still OK to sell and transfer RHI if you have the time and patience to deal with ofgem. Also possible to transfer RHI to a new boiler, hence the original question.

 

[RS Renewable Energy Ltd.]

May be a bit early to see what effect the removal of RHI has had but I would have thought there must be a significant reduction in the cost of biomass boilers if they are to be economic?

You are very right. Expect the offers to start first then the prices will drop.
Look at PV panels and how cheap they are now compared to when the feed in tariff was around.

 

[PV & Biomass since 2002]

Didn't even know they had stooped the RHI . can the old burners still be traded with the remaining term left on the RHI sold on

yes thay can. We buy and sell and install used boilers ... check our page here

Used boilers

Used Boilers with RHI Refurbished and / or used heating parts

biomasssparesonline.co.uk

 

[PV & Biomass since 2002]

You are very right. Expect the offers to start first then the prices will drop.
Look at PV panels and how cheap they are now compared to when the feed in tariff was around.

Except with PV people shifted from buying panels from Germany to buyig from China. I dont know anyone who would want to buy a biomass boiler made in China. It will come I'm sure, just like everything else, but not yet.

 

[555]

There is a growing demand for replacement biomass boilers. Removing ones that have underperformed, become unserviceable etc. You can replace a boiler of the same heat out out and maintain your current RHI tariff and time period. You can also increase in size, but you will only be eligible for payments on your current size. We are busy replacing poor quality boilers with quality LINKA boilers. One of the most common conversions is the change from pellets to wood chip, with several straw systems being requested. You can add heat demand as long as it’s eligible, or if not eligible meter it and use the lower cost heat. Give Manco Energy a call or myself on 07507 562954 and we can discuss.

 

[dave mountain]

May be a bit early to see what effect the removal of RHI has had but I would have thought there must be a significant reduction in the cost of biomass boilers if they are to be economic?

I fear you have answered your own question: they will not be economic.

 

[555]

4000Mw of heat on oil approx £200,000.
4000Mw on straw approx £40,000.
Capex £400,000 - 1Mw Linka Straw Boiler
2.5 years pay back
Only works if you are needing heat.

 

[dave mountain]

I assume you mean MWh, 4000MWh on oil is less than £155k currently.
Straw is £100/ton minimum currently (ex farm). 4MWh per ton, so £100,000 ish (excluding haulage)
£100k of straw + straw storage sheds (+ lost potential earnings from said sheds) + telehandler to move it/load it + driver + diesel + cost of extra borrowing for boiler + higher service costs + haulage cost for 1000 tons of straw etc etc.
Youd need some seriously biased calculations to make biomass viable at current oil prices (granted prices change, just as they do with straw). A lot of people couldn't even justify it with RHI and straw prices of £40/ton let alone with high straw prices and no RHI.