Profit (!) Per Ewe.

Random. But this is the type of skin / coat type we are selecting on the shedding lambs. Finding these lambs also have the best shape and thicker skin!
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yellowbelly

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Will get some photos of the myomax lambs at some point. Everyone seems to be obsessing over it, so have found some ewes with double copies and rams with double copies and have got 100 odd lambs out of them to test.
My understanding of it is you shouldn't need to test....

..double carrier x double carrier should surely be a double carrier :scratchhead:
 

neilo

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Montgomeryshire
My understanding of it is you shouldn't need to test....

..double carrier x double carrier should surely be a double carrier :scratchhead:

Probably still worth testing to confirm, particularly if lambing outdoors with minimal intervention. Any trial would be an expensive nonsense if an inadvertent mixup at lambing meant that your ‘double myoMax’ ram was actually a non-carrying moustached goat who’s mother had dropped it next to your double carrier ewe and buggered off… just as an example.
 

Al R

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West Wales
Probably still worth testing to confirm, particularly if lambing outdoors with minimal intervention. Any trial would be an expensive nonsense if an inadvertent mixup at lambing meant that your ‘double myoMax’ ram was actually a non-carrying moustached goat who’s mother had dropped it next to your double carrier ewe and buggered off… just as an example.
You can see why we called our first one Ho Chi Minh 🤣
 

JHT

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Random. But this is the type of skin / coat type we are selecting on the shedding lambs. Finding these lambs also have the best shape and thicker skin! View attachment 1038244
Do you dock and castrate all the shedding lambs? I’ve got some born mid April not touched yet and I’m tempted to leave them alone. Hoping to sell all the males as stores in early September off farm though so perhaps would be better if they were done- not sure 🤔
 
Do you dock and castrate all the shedding lambs? I’ve got some born mid April not touched yet and I’m tempted to leave them alone. Hoping to sell all the males as stores in early September off farm though so perhaps would be better if they were done- not sure 🤔
I think you'll have rather a limited market for undocked entire ram lambs in September. Why not ring them in the first 24 hours, takes minimal time and shouldn't cause any problems with maternal ewes
 
My understanding of it is you shouldn't need to test....

..double carrier x double carrier should surely be a double carrier :scratchhead:
Dunno mate. Everyone seems to want a bit of paper proving stuff 😂

But it’s fairly low down the list of traits we are after.

Think it adds 7% muscling to back end basically.

7% more muscle on a sh!t sheep and it’s still a sh!t sheep. You can get plenty of sheep with better muscle depth etc that don’t have myomax than one with.

But it’s another thing to tinker around with.
 
Do you dock and castrate all the shedding lambs? I’ve got some born mid April not touched yet and I’m tempted to leave them alone. Hoping to sell all the males as stores in early September off farm though so perhaps would be better if they were done- not sure 🤔
One flock - nothing docked but everything castrated.

Other flock - everything docked and castrated

Recorded flock - docked and not castrated.

Management reasons and personal preference.

If you are selling private you should be ok, but the balls will be a much bigger problem for folk than the tails!

But I wouldn’t be worried about doing them if it were legal mate.
 
Probably still worth testing to confirm, particularly if lambing outdoors with minimal intervention. Any trial would be an expensive nonsense if an inadvertent mixup at lambing meant that your ‘double myoMax’ ram was actually a non-carrying moustached goat who’s mother had dropped it next to your double carrier ewe and buggered off… just as an example.
😂

Good Point.

Shouldn’t be too much on an issue here though I wouldn’t think.
 

neilo

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
Dunno mate. Everyone seems to want a bit of paper proving stuff 😂

But it’s fairly low down the list of traits we are after.

Think it adds 7% muscling to back end basically.

7% more muscle on a sh!t sheep and it’s still a sh!t sheep. You can get plenty of sheep with better muscle depth etc that don’t have myomax than one with.

But it’s another thing to tinker around with.

Absolutely. MyoMax is just a bonus, and won’t make a sh*t sheep into a good one, just a slightly better one.

The real sheep with real potential, is one with good hindquarter fleshing but no MyoMax, as introducing MyoMax to that makes those good genetics even better.👍

That non-carrier sheep having a better eye muscle depth is an irrelevance really though, as MyoMax has no effect on loin muscling whatsoever, just hindquarter fleshing. There is absolutely no reason you can’t have a top end eye muscle, as well as MyoMax adding a free addition to the hindquarter. It’s just another tool in the box.
 

JHT

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Wales
I think you'll have rather a limited market for undocked entire ram lambs in September. Why not ring them in the first 24 hours, takes minimal time and shouldn't cause any problems with maternal ewes
Yes maybe so- that’s why I was pondering what to do. I left them alone last year and fattened the ram lambs myself which was ok but we are on some high land and I was looking to shift them a bit sooner to try and free up some room.
I’m a one man band lambing over a few parcels of land- running up to 1600 feet so won’t be ringing them at birth as I’d rather leave them quiet and in what little shelter they have.
 

unlacedgecko

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Yes maybe so- that’s why I was pondering what to do. I left them alone last year and fattened the ram lambs myself which was ok but we are on some high land and I was looking to shift them a bit sooner to try and free up some room.
I’m a one man band lambing over a few parcels of land- running up to 1600 feet so won’t be ringing them at birth as I’d rather leave them quiet and in what little shelter they have.

I leave mine entire. PM me your details and I'll speak to my buyers for you.
 

JHT

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Location
Wales
Would think if you plan to sell as stores they would definitely be better with the balls off !
I was hoping if I found a private buyer it might not be such an issue. In Hereford market last couple of years store tup lambs have been making just as much if not more than clean lambs. But this is usually a later in the season- Nov onwards. Obviously the fact that they are shedders, I’m looking to sell in September and the price of feed may have some impact on the price.
 
I was hoping if I found a private buyer it might not be such an issue. In Hereford market last couple of years store tup lambs have been making just as much if not more than clean lambs. But this is usually a later in the season- Nov onwards. Obviously the fact that they are shedders, I’m looking to sell in September and the price of feed may have some impact on the price.
Yes, I've seen a buyer at Hexham specifically looking for tup lambs but I'm not sure that I'd want to rely on it for placing big numbers.
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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