Project Xerion.

[Blue.]

 

[Lukehaynes]

Yeah was Phil trim with the VC, now has a saddle trac, as does another contractor not far down the road.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Few more bits off yesterday. Bit of tinwork, bonnet, front mudguards and brackets. I don’t think we can actually do a lot more on the conversion before the subframe arrives .

We can give the whole unit a good service though. Sent all oils away for a test and all came back with good results except for one wheel hub so we can have a dig there.

I’ll change every oil in the tractor and filters, cab too. The aircon is showing a fault so can look into that. A bracket needs fabricating to mount screens in the cab too.

I dare say I’ve enough to do!

 

[Bob c]

@Cab-over Pete are you having a new spreader body for her

 

[Alistair Nelson]

Few more bits off yesterday. Bit of tinwork, bonnet, front mudguards and brackets. I don’t think we can actually do a lot more on the conversion before the subframe arrives .
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We can give the whole unit a good service though. Sent all oils away for a test and all came back with good results except for one wheel hub so we can have a dig there.

I’ll change every oil in the tractor and filters, cab too. The aircon is showing a fault so can look into that. A bracket needs fabricating to mount screens in the cab too.

I dare say I’ve enough to do!

Keep on top of the hubs my neighbour has run 3 and the first 2 all had catastrophic hub issues but they were pulling hard all there lives.

 

[Shovelhands]

@Cab-over Pete , will you be powering the Hydraulics via the PTO and a dedicated pump?

 

[Kevtherev]

@Cab-over Pete , will you be powering the Hydraulics via the PTO and a dedicated pump?

Briggs&Stratton donkey engine off a mixer

 

[Cab-over Pete]

@Cab-over Pete are you having a new spreader body for her

No, I’m putting the 10t Bredal body on from the Multidrive. I’d like a new body but can’t run to that cost just now.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

@Cab-over Pete , will you be powering the Hydraulics via the PTO and a dedicated pump?

Probably not. I’ve got to look into it but I thought a tractor of this size must surely have enough oil flow for the body.

It has 4 da spool valves and a power beyond system. I’m not sure how that works. Any ideas?

 

[Andrew]

Probably not. I’ve got to look into it but I thought a tractor of this size must surely have enough oil flow for the body.

It has 4 da spool valves and a power beyond system. I’m not sure how that works. Any ideas?

Power beyond is like a feed for a remote spool block, sits there and just licks in when the remote block demands it.

 

[Shovelhands]

Probably not. I’ve got to look into it but I thought a tractor of this size must surely have enough oil flow for the body.

It has 4 da spool valves and a power beyond system. I’m not sure how that works. Any ideas?

Surely Claas can tell you what can be delivered via the standard spools, however I think it will need a dedicated return to tank without going through the spools if it hasn’t already got one?
There must be information on the pump fitted to the multidrive? Your going to need to match or exceed this I’d imagine?

 

[Lukehaynes]

Few more bits off yesterday. Bit of tinwork, bonnet, front mudguards and brackets. I don’t think we can actually do a lot more on the conversion before the subframe arrives .
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We can give the whole unit a good service though. Sent all oils away for a test and all came back with good results except for one wheel hub so we can have a dig there.

I’ll change every oil in the tractor and filters, cab too. The aircon is showing a fault so can look into that. A bracket needs fabricating to mount screens in the cab too.

I dare say I’ve enough to do!

Where does the exhaust sit after the cab goes over the engine?

 

[Kevtherev]

Probably not. I’ve got to look into it but I thought a tractor of this size must surely have enough oil flow for the body.

It has 4 da spool valves and a power beyond system. I’m not sure how that works. Any ideas?

It’s a higher demand system you could utilise it for running the spreader provided its up to demand plus oil cooler is effective enough?

 

[Kevtherev]

You may have to increase oil capacity with extra tank maybe?
Any return should be dumped back to tank not through spool.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Ok, thanks all. It has a big hyd oil tank, not sure how much is in it, but it looks ample compared to Multidrive. The Bredal has an oil cooler fitted.

I’ll just ask Dave Symons, ex Multidrive fitter. The Cornish Magician I call him, very smart chap. He will know what’s required. Then the get the relevant info from Claas. I’m not too worried about it, as I said, there must be way more oil supply than the Multidrive.

Where does the exhaust sit after the cab goes over the engine?

The exhaust gets re-routed to be behind the cab, not much of a job.

 

[chaffcutter]

What’s the difference between this model and the saddle track in the advert earlier in the thread? I thought the idea of these was that the cab had several positions, or did it just reverse?

(Apart from the obvious that the cab is already at the front I mean)

 

[Blue.]

If it was mine id be making the sub frame so it could be relocated instead of the body,an hour tops and you could be back as a tractor.

 

[Andrew]

What’s the difference between this model and the saddle track in the advert earlier in the thread? I thought the idea of these was that the cab had several positions, or did it just reverse?

(Apart from the obvious that the cab is already at the front I mean)

I think there was / is 3 different models, a forward control, a fixed mid cab and a variable mid / spun to rear cab.

Oil capacities and outputs are normally listed in the sales brochures, but I would think the Xerion more than capable?

 

[Cab-over Pete]

If it was mine id be making the sub frame so it could be relocated instead of the body,an hour tops and you could be back as a tractor.

I can’t make a subframe myself because nobody , and I mean nobody, would insure and also Claas UK wrote to me saying if I did they would supply no other parts or any service to it whatsoever.

What’s the difference between this model and the saddle track in the advert earlier in the thread? I thought the idea of these was that the cab had several positions, or did it just reverse?

(Apart from the obvious that the cab is already at the front I mean)

Mine is a Trac VC. The cab can be mid or rear mounted. I didn’t want to rear mount it and put the body over the engine because one, it would be too high, two, the engine would be in all the dust and muck and three, I didn’t fancy spending 800+ hrs per year jiggling up and down over a fixed axle.

I couldn’t find a nice Saddle Trac, but of course this really nice one turns up after I’ve bought mine!!

 

[Kevtherev]

What power is it peter?
And what weight when loaded if you don’t mind me asking?