Project Xerion.

D14

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There is no bonnet. All of the engine is behind the cab so I think, with difficulty, you could actually remove the head if need be. But I concede that maintenance is generally going to be a right bugger of a job.

For a big machine there is just no room around it at all. There’s a lot jammed in there!

Ive seen one in germany that had hydraulic rams which lifted the slurry body clear of the chassis. They then had some big legs to slide into the holders on the spreader chassis very much like Bateman demount legs but much beefier. I saw them take it off and all they did was undo the twist locks, plug the rams into a spool and lift the body. Put the legs in and drive forward. It took no more than a couple of minutes.
 
Bit of a disappointing day.

We don’t have enough oil flow. In theory we do, but we can’t get enough in practice unless the tractors revving flat out, which is obviously no good.

We dont think it’s a wear problem, plenty of pressure, just not enough flow.

The GPS man is coming on Monday so we’ll get it going and see what happens. I thought we can fanny about all week with ideas and theories but you can’t beat getting it all going and driving about with it to actually see what happens.

There’s an outside chance that it will spread lime and fibrophos fine enough, but if I want to spread AN or granular at 24m plus then the discs will use too much oil to power the bed at the same time.

If that’s the case I think I will just drop the AN work rather than spend £6000 plus on millions of hydraulic bits and a new pump. It’s only a very small part of what I do, earning me maybe £1000 per year. I’m not going to worry about that and I don’t enjoy it anyway!

We’ll know more on Monday.
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Stick a ram on it(y) be ideal when traveling down hill, keep the body level.
Or for those days when it sticks like sh!t to a blanket and you feel like picking the machine up by its nose, shaking it violently and then going home.:banghead:

Remind me again why we do this job(n):facepalm:
All jokes aside is that something that could be done sounds like a bloody good idea if it could be @Cab-over Pete
 

davedb

Member
Location
Staffordshire
Bit of a disappointing day.

We don’t have enough oil flow. In theory we do, but we can’t get enough in practice unless the tractors revving flat out, which is obviously no good.

We dont think it’s a wear problem, plenty of pressure, just not enough flow.

The GPS man is coming on Monday so we’ll get it going and see what happens. I thought we can fanny about all week with ideas and theories but you can’t beat getting it all going and driving about with it to actually see what happens.

There’s an outside chance that it will spread lime and fibrophos fine enough, but if I want to spread AN or granular at 24m plus then the discs will use too much oil to power the bed at the same time.

If that’s the case I think I will just drop the AN work rather than spend £6000 plus on millions of hydraulic bits and a new pump. It’s only a very small part of what I do, earning me maybe £1000 per year. I’m not going to worry about that and I don’t enjoy it anyway!

We’ll know more on Monday.
Pto driven oil pump to drive the disks wouldn’t cost a lot
 

Drillman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Bit of a disappointing day.

We don’t have enough oil flow. In theory we do, but we can’t get enough in practice unless the tractors revving flat out, which is obviously no good.

We dont think it’s a wear problem, plenty of pressure, just not enough flow.

The GPS man is coming on Monday so we’ll get it going and see what happens. I thought we can fanny about all week with ideas and theories but you can’t beat getting it all going and driving about with it to actually see what happens.

There’s an outside chance that it will spread lime and fibrophos fine enough, but if I want to spread AN or granular at 24m plus then the discs will use too much oil to power the bed at the same time.

If that’s the case I think I will just drop the AN work rather than spend £6000 plus on millions of hydraulic bits and a new pump. It’s only a very small part of what I do, earning me maybe £1000 per year. I’m not going to worry about that and I don’t enjoy it anyway!

We’ll know more on Monday.
How the f**k can a tractor that big and expensive not have enough oil flow to spin a couple of discs and move a belt at the same time? Would have expected something like that to pee it.

Edit- I never typed f**k or pee:whistle:
 

Shovelhands

Member
Location
Sunny Essex
Bit of a disappointing day.

We don’t have enough oil flow. In theory we do, but we can’t get enough in practice unless the tractors revving flat out, which is obviously no good.

We dont think it’s a wear problem, plenty of pressure, just not enough flow.

The GPS man is coming on Monday so we’ll get it going and see what happens. I thought we can fanny about all week with ideas and theories but you can’t beat getting it all going and driving about with it to actually see what happens.

There’s an outside chance that it will spread lime and fibrophos fine enough, but if I want to spread AN or granular at 24m plus then the discs will use too much oil to power the bed at the same time.

If that’s the case I think I will just drop the AN work rather than spend £6000 plus on millions of hydraulic bits and a new pump. It’s only a very small part of what I do, earning me maybe £1000 per year. I’m not going to worry about that and I don’t enjoy it anyway!

We’ll know more on Monday.

Oh dear Pete , if it doesn’t rain, it pours! :cry:

I was worried about the potential flow you might have tbh. Driving spinners efficiently takes some flow, no matter what the hp of the tractor, if it ain’t got the pump, then it ain’t got the flow...:(

Is there scope for changing the pump? How is the pump driven currently?
 
Oh dear Pete , if it doesn’t rain, it pours! :cry:

I was worried about the potential flow you might have tbh. Driving spinners efficiently takes some flow, no matter what the hp of the tractor, if it ain’t got the pump, then it ain’t got the flow...:(

Is there scope for changing the pump? How is the pump driven currently?


Might be a bit of scope but there’s very little room around it.
 

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