Project Xerion.

[Chae1]

What about this for loading!?

 

[Tomr10]

What about this for loading!?

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Could pull the big a with it in the us

 

[bravheart]

It’s probably as good as anything to be fair no second machine needed .

No lift home either met his road train yesterday, tractor with front end loader, spreader, car trailer with the get me home bus on board.

 

[Hilly]

No lift home either met his road train yesterday, tractor with front end loader, spreader, car trailer with the get me home bus on board.

Yes like I say for one man band it actually will be bad to beat in many ways .

 

[Tommy]

What about this for loading!?

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Don’t try this with a Nissan [emoji21][emoji50]

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Don’t try this with a Nissan [emoji21][emoji50]

It could be the answer Nissan gave been looking for!! The loader subframe would keep the pickup in one piece!!!

 

[Nick.]

This is what you need with a spreader deck on @Cab-over Pete
Not so sure I’d want it on mine though.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

My lad has just shown me that!

The trailer crabs beautifully

 

[PSQ]

but most of my customers don’t want a trailed spreader now.

Following this thread since forever, and the logical conclusion to your ‘circular argument nightmare’ is that if their isn’t a legal SP lime spreader that meets your specifications, then your customers need to change their expectations.

If other contractors are towing with potentially illegal rigs but not being stopped, then JFDI.
And if you go trailed and need to tell your customers to supply a loader then your customers won’t go past you. If they do, sod ‘em.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I’m starting to think that way at times!!!

 

[tepapa]

The way health and safety is going and looking to the construction industry, they all work in pairs or teams so they aren't alone incase of a problem.
But you know in reality there isn't enough money in the spreading job to warrant another man to just load the spreader.
But what it would do is solve your logistics by having another driver to shuttle the loader around. Really agriculture needs to paid a fair price for produce so it can keep up with the health and safety expectations etc. Something will have to give eventually.

 

[Henarar]

The way health and safety is going and looking to the construction industry, they all work in pairs or teams so they aren't alone incase of a problem.
But you know in reality there isn't enough money in the spreading job to warrant another man to just load the spreader.
But what it would do is solve your logistics by having another driver to shuttle the loader around. Really agriculture needs to paid a fair price for produce so it can keep up with the health and safety expectations etc. Something will have to give eventually.

Really it needs to be a one driver or three driver job
Two drivers and both would spend a good time doing feck all

 

[Foxcover]

Really it needs to be a one driver or three driver job
Two drivers and both would spend a good time doing feck all

Yeah, 2 Big A’s and 1 loader could get through a lot in a day.
Big outfit round here still has a 3 wheeler I think but tends to use owner drivers with their tractor towing a Bredal with a crane, and they put a blade on front for scraping up.

 

[ray09]

Why not buy a second hand artic unit and low loader? Surly it would be cheaper than having the xerion. As someone said previously, put narrow, new technology rubber on the big A and run them at low pressures. Bring the loader and the spreader on the low loader. You would pick up a second hand unit and trailer for 35-40k.

 

[Andrew]

Why not buy a second hand artic unit and low loader? Surly it would be cheaper than having the xerion. As someone said previously, put narrow, new technology rubber on the big A and run them at low pressures. Bring the loader and the spreader on the low loader. You would pick up a second hand unit and trailer for 35-40k.

That would be a significant investment, with O licence, transport manager cpc, inspections.

Then for that width you need police notification and maybe attendant.

Thats before you start on all the drivers hours.

 

[PSQ]

Thats before you start on all the drivers hours.

Would it class as ‘agricultural use’, same as an articulated seed dresser, no tacho and eligible to run red diesel?

 

[Andrew]

Would it class as ‘agricultural use’, same as an articulated seed dresser, no tacho and eligible to run red diesel?

Can't see any reason why you'd get away with that?

 

[ray09]

Surly the sale of the xerion would cover the cost of that? Why a transport manager? Could he not fil that roll himself? It would be a no brainer for me. You could do other haulage work at quiet times of the year to offset the cost of ownership and you would be using the item unlike the xerion. Re the width, could the big A be narrowed in to make it legal on the road?

 

[Andrew]

Surly the sale of the xerion would cover the cost of that? Why a transport manager? Could he not fil that roll himself? It would be a no brainer for me. You could do other haulage work at quiet times of the year to offset the cost of ownership and you would be using the item unlike the xerion. Re the width, could the big A be narrowed in to make it legal on the road?

The sale of the Xerion would cover the cost, but there's still a lot of hassle. He could do the transport manager himself but that's £1800 and 10 days in the classroom to get your TM CPC. Then you have the restricted operating hours you get with trucks.

 

[Boohoo]

The sale of the Xerion would cover the cost, but there's still a lot of hassle. He could do the transport manager himself but that's £1800 and 10 days in the classroom to get your TM CPC. Then you have the restricted operating hours you get with trucks.

£1800? Is it that expensive now? Pass rates wouldn't be great for the intensive course either. 5 years since I did the exams but was around £350 for a night class at a further education college.