Project Zetros

That would be nice. It seems everything is taking three times as long as I would like!

Got everything stripped off the chassis now, so she’s bareback. There was a fair bit of wiring and air pipes to redirect from a catwalk and rack full of plugs and air unions so that was all a faff.

Then I’ve had to move and shorten the exhaust too, which meant undoing lots of other bits and bobs, cutting the exhaust, welding it back together, making new stay bars etc etc.

Just sat the body over the back this morning. I’ve now got to cut down and adapt the main rear mounting brackets which were on the Multistrife and have been adapted once for the Xerion.

Now I’ve got to mount body somehow taking into account the huge amount of twist that occurs when the truck goes on to undulating ground. The Bredal body has no give at all so could very often only be touching the chassis in three out of the four corners. I need to fabricate fixings with a lot of extension in them.

Got my brother coming to have a look tomorrow for a bit of a brainstorm!
 

Chae1

Member
Location
Aberdeenshire
That would be nice. It seems everything is taking three times as long as I would like!

Got everything stripped off the chassis now, so she’s bareback. There was a fair bit of wiring and air pipes to redirect from a catwalk and rack full of plugs and air unions so that was all a faff.

Then I’ve had to move and shorten the exhaust too, which meant undoing lots of other bits and bobs, cutting the exhaust, welding it back together, making new stay bars etc etc.

Just sat the body over the back this morning. I’ve now got to cut down and adapt the main rear mounting brackets which were on the Multistrife and have been adapted once for the Xerion.

Now I’ve got to mount body somehow taking into account the huge amount of twist that occurs when the truck goes on to undulating ground. The Bredal body has no give at all so could very often only be touching the chassis in three out of the four corners. I need to fabricate fixings with a lot of extension in them.

Got my brother coming to have a look tomorrow for a bit of a brainstorm!
You like a challenge!
 

Mark C

Member
Location
Bedfordshire
That would be nice. It seems everything is taking three times as long as I would like!

Got everything stripped off the chassis now, so she’s bareback. There was a fair bit of wiring and air pipes to redirect from a catwalk and rack full of plugs and air unions so that was all a faff.

Then I’ve had to move and shorten the exhaust too, which meant undoing lots of other bits and bobs, cutting the exhaust, welding it back together, making new stay bars etc etc.

Just sat the body over the back this morning. I’ve now got to cut down and adapt the main rear mounting brackets which were on the Multistrife and have been adapted once for the Xerion.

Now I’ve got to mount body somehow taking into account the huge amount of twist that occurs when the truck goes on to undulating ground. The Bredal body has no give at all so could very often only be touching the chassis in three out of the four corners. I need to fabricate fixings with a lot of extension in them.

Got my brother coming to have a look tomorrow for a bit of a brainstorm!
Thanks for the update Pete. My comment was only meant tongue in cheek but genuinely fascinated. Let’s see some pics ....
 

mogman

Member
Location
Cheshire
Would it need mounting on just three points then two at the rear and one central at the front bit like a haib on a lorry or indeed like my unimog body was mounted or even long mounting bolts with springs bit like ali powered tankers have?
On an other note you mentioned that (on the other thread) about not running in the same tracks front and rear wheels? how about a steered rear axle that only went say half lock in either directions (just so the track was different from the front) worked by a simple electric spool valve left or right with a mechanical lock in the centre for road use

By the way excellent thread........both of the builds I've followed shame about the class

Mr Mogman
 

Spud

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
YO62
Would it need mounting on just three points then two at the rear and one central at the front bit like a haib on a lorry or indeed like my unimog body was mounted or even long mounting bolts with springs bit like ali powered tankers have?
On an other note you mentioned that (on the other thread) about not running in the same tracks front and rear wheels? how about a steered rear axle that only went say half lock in either directions (just so the track was different from the front) worked by a simple electric spool valve left or right with a mechanical lock in the centre for road use

By the way excellent thread........both of the builds I've followed shame about the class

Mr Mogman
@limey2450 will confirm his situation, but given chassis twist at the rear, I'd say you'd be better with the single mount at the back, and a pair at the front, so the pivot is as near to the movement as possible?
 
On my Multistrife it was way too rigid, front and back. The back in two places, one each side onto a big cross member. At the front there were a pair of big kind of claws fixed to a cross member inside the chassis.

We’ve run one wheel of the Zetros up a heap of planings and had a good look. There is hardly any twist at the back couple of feet of the chassis, probably due to the heavy duty spring hangers, so we will mount it well on the back and then on some heavy tension springs on the front, both pulling at a slight angle toward the chassis to keep it from wandering sideways.
 
On my Multistrife it was way too rigid, front and back. The back in two places, one each side onto a big cross member. At the front there were a pair of big kind of claws fixed to a cross member inside the chassis.

We’ve run one wheel of the Zetros up a heap of planings and had a good look. There is hardly any twist at the back couple of feet of the chassis, probably due to the heavy duty spring hangers, so we will mount it well on the back and then on some heavy tension springs on the front, both pulling at a slight angle toward the chassis to keep it from wandering sideways.
Will you have some form of other connection other than the springs so they cannot move too far if the worst happens?
 

Smith31

Member
That would be nice. It seems everything is taking three times as long as I would like!

Got everything stripped off the chassis now, so she’s bareback. There was a fair bit of wiring and air pipes to redirect from a catwalk and rack full of plugs and air unions so that was all a faff.

Then I’ve had to move and shorten the exhaust too, which meant undoing lots of other bits and bobs, cutting the exhaust, welding it back together, making new stay bars etc etc.

Just sat the body over the back this morning. I’ve now got to cut down and adapt the main rear mounting brackets which were on the Multistrife and have been adapted once for the Xerion.

Now I’ve got to mount body somehow taking into account the huge amount of twist that occurs when the truck goes on to undulating ground. The Bredal body has no give at all so could very often only be touching the chassis in three out of the four corners. I need to fabricate fixings with a lot of extension in them.

Got my brother coming to have a look tomorrow for a bit of a brainstorm!
Bit off topic sorry, very impressed with what you are capable of. The level of skill which you display could easily be transferred to other industries and command £££££€$$ a day, with a lot less headache and without worrying about the weather.
 
Blimey!!! I’ve not had a compliment like that ever!!!

I’m honestly not that skilled. I can make a half decent job of things, but the amount of stuff I have to do twice is a constant source of annoyance to me!!

I know when to give up and get advice too. I’ve got quite a lot of contacts over the years so know who to ask to either advise or do jobs for me.

I’m enjoying this sort of thing less as the years go by if I’m honest. I don’t have a nice workshop to do anything in and long for a glass-smooth floor and heating!!
 

br jones

Member
Blimey!!! I’ve not had a compliment like that ever!!!

I’m honestly not that skilled. I can make a half decent job of things, but the amount of stuff I have to do twice is a constant source of annoyance to me!!

I know when to give up and get advice too. I’ve got quite a lot of contacts over the years so know who to ask to either advise or do jobs for me.

I’m enjoying this sort of thing less as the years go by if I’m honest. I don’t have a nice workshop to do anything in and long for a glass-smooth floor and heating!!
Thats the way, half arsed but an enthusiastic effort ,top effort pedro
 

Steevo

Member
Location
Gloucestershire
Blimey!!! I’ve not had a compliment like that ever!!!

I’m honestly not that skilled. I can make a half decent job of things, but the amount of stuff I have to do twice is a constant source of annoyance to me!!

I know when to give up and get advice too. I’ve got quite a lot of contacts over the years so know who to ask to either advise or do jobs for me.

I’m enjoying this sort of thing less as the years go by if I’m honest. I don’t have a nice workshop to do anything in and long for a glass-smooth floor and heating!!
It was mentioned earlier in the thread that you should have a YouTube channel!

There aren’t many people who have the skill and patience to dedicate to their business by building their own unique equipment for the job.

Even @Phil P has resorted to just Lego Technic now! 😂
 

Tubbylew

Member
Location
Herefordshire
Blimey!!! I’ve not had a compliment like that ever!!!

I’m honestly not that skilled. I can make a half decent job of things, but the amount of stuff I have to do twice is a constant source of annoyance to me!!

I know when to give up and get advice too. I’ve got quite a lot of contacts over the years so know who to ask to either advise or do jobs for me.

I’m enjoying this sort of thing less as the years go by if I’m honest. I don’t have a nice workshop to do anything in and long for a glass-smooth floor and heating!!
To be fair pete, there's a lot of kit made by folks who should've given up and asked for help!
 

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