Pronar wrapper

v8willy

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Mixed Farmer
It was copied from the old kvernland silawrap back in the day, although I agree that Mchale generally improve on the design they plagiarise. Only really the fusion that was there own design, HS2000 copied the T8, straw chopper followed Lucas, balers followed lely and plenty of court cases followed.
Kverneland "bought" their wrappers as they were Volac beforehand, which the last 1 we had was a nightmare to use, a fully auto 7515.
When we bought the auto McHale we didn't think it was anything special, till we started to use it, it was in a different league.
 

Sharpy

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Livestock Farmer
McHales bread and butter back in the day was livestock based machinery. They also spent some time improving Claas balers.
Class netting system, arguably the simplest and most reliable.
Welgar feed rotor and drop floor, the biggest appetite apart from the Vicon integral auger but easier to unchoke due to the drop floor.
John Deere chamber and roller system including the best cog attachment set up with the taper insert. No concentric fitting to seize, no keys to shear and jam, no splines to wear out.
All the best bits of baler design stolen from others.
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Kverneland "bought" their wrappers as they were Volac beforehand, which the last 1 we had was a nightmare to use, a fully auto 7515.
When we bought the auto McHale we didn't think it was anything special, till we started to use it, it was in a different league.
That's strange, I have a fully auto 7515 and have never found anything better, a few others have agreed with me, all Mchale users!
 

v8willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
That's strange, I have a fully auto 7515 and have never found anything better, a few others have agreed with me, all Mchale users!
At that time (94~5ish) they were running with rubber pre-stretch rollers, which after a couple of hours were full up with tack & started slipping, having to wash them, at them with a hacksaw blade & anything else to try & keep going, trying everything to get a days wrapping done. We wanted a set of alloy rollers the same as every other wrapper was using.

Our rep who was with us from the Volac days (& was going the extra mile for us) tried his best, but in the end after a couple of years of torture told us basically Kevrneland make ploughs & haven't much interest in wrappers.
So we got a local man who worked in a foundry to make us a set of alloy rollers which was a gamechanger,
Once the rep seen what we had he asked us to get a few more sets made which he sold to other men with the same problem, still have a set here.

That was the main problem, but also remember the control box giving bother, the axle bolts snapping often & the roll pin snapping on the table, plus if it was wet I had to hang on the side of it to get them loaded, thankfully I was the baler man.

McHale just worked, had a better auto cycle on the tipping. only thing missing on the McHale was the sensor on the loading arm to stop it turning if it's too high.
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
At that time (94~5ish) they were running with rubber pre-stretch rollers, which after a couple of hours were full up with tack & started slipping, having to wash them, at them with a hacksaw blade & anything else to try & keep going, trying everything to get a days wrapping done. We wanted a set of alloy rollers the same as every other wrapper was using.

Our rep who was with us from the Volac days (& was going the extra mile for us) tried his best, but in the end after a couple of years of torture told us basically Kevrneland make ploughs & haven't much interest in wrappers.
So we got a local man who worked in a foundry to make us a set of alloy rollers which was a gamechanger,
Once the rep seen what we had he asked us to get a few more sets made which he sold to other men with the same problem, still have a set here.

That was the main problem, but also remember the control box giving bother, the axle bolts snapping often & the roll pin snapping on the table, plus if it was wet I had to hang on the side of it to get them loaded, thankfully I was the baler man.

McHale just worked, had a better auto cycle on the tipping. only thing missing on the McHale was the sensor on the loading arm to stop it turning if it's too high.
Mine has always had alloy rollers, only bother with the roll pins comes when being rough loading it. Mostly used as a static wrapper though, has probably done 150000 bales, worn out 3 remote controls.
 

v8willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Mine has always had alloy rollers, only bother with the roll pins comes when being rough loading it. Mostly used as a static wrapper though, has probably done 150000 bales, worn out 3 remote controls.
Was nothing to do with rough loading, heavy bales the problem, Oct/Nov silage is a different thing from June.
 

Sharpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
Was nothing to do with rough loading, heavy bales the problem, Oct/Nov silage is a different thing from June.
I wasn't criticising your operating technique, it's not possible to continuously load heavy bales gently with the loading arm. As I said I mostly use mine as a static wrapper and I only get bother with the roll pin if I don't place the bale on the table, ie drop it on.
 

Def95

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Mixed Farmer
Moors Lad no I’m not from the UK I’m from Australia and where I am from there’s not many second hand ones so yes I agree with Dave W that a second hand one would be good enough but around here they want near new price or you drive for a day and a half south where there’s more but still not a lot and pay a heap on freight after travelling down there to have a look at it.
Nonemouse I haven’t really heard of Connor wrappers here but will look into it.
Thanks again for the replies
 

Def95

Member
Mixed Farmer
I’m not sure how all that works according to Vicon Australia website they only sell the BW2400J and BW2600J neither one is the one the dealer said they have coming in.
 

Dave W

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I'll just leave this here 😎
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Def95

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Mixed Farmer
Hi

I ended up getting a 2010 lely 160 that’s done about 20000 bales for half price the bloke that owned it was happy with it and said he’d buy another one it they came with twin dispensers.
 

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