Propane or diesel grain dryer

[Woldgrain Storage]

There is a big GTG AD plant up the road from you so you'd be getting gas from the grid produced by land that might have otherwise been producing grain for your stores...

This is probably a whole new thread, but should excellent arable land be growing maize to feed a digester?

We would much rather the land was used to grow feed wheat for Ensus/Vivergo...

The nearest AD plant is only half a mile from us, but is fed "using only food waste from within 100 miles".

 

[Brisel]

Ploughing horses were fed oats... I don't know what they dried grain with back then though.

 

[bankrupt]

I don't know what they dried grain with back then though.

Our Penney and Porter ran on coal up to 1951.

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

Ploughing horses were fed oats...

Very true, but in those days food waste heading to landfill would have been practically zero.

UK households produce 27 million tonnes of waste a year (not all food though), a significant proportion of which could be feeding AD plants.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploa...le/567502/Digest_waste_resource_2016_rev4.pdf

 

[Brisel]

Times are a'changing. What % of your feed or low grade wheat goes to Vivergo or Ensus?

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

Of the 2015 crop, we sent 354 loads of wheat to non-food/feed homes, so probably more than ever before.

 

[franklin]

This is probably a whole new thread, but should excellent arable land be growing maize to feed a digester?

We would much rather the land was used to grow feed wheat for Ensus/Vivergo...

The nearest AD plant is only half a mile from us, but is fed "using only food waste from within 100 miles".

One could ask then if a central store 1/2 a mile from an AD plant couldnt be fuelled by the gas / electric it produced. The answer is subsidies, as usual. There is no other reason. Lorries taking wheat to Vivergo for ethanol then driving up to a port to load up with coal from abroad to take it to be used in the UK. Thats pretty silly really isnt it.

 

[Woldgrain Storage]

In an ideal world we would be producing our own electricity/gas from the screenings we produce and from the wasted heat energy from our three driers. However, the costs of such a system would be prohibitive without enormous subsidies. We would also need more space.

There are few things less sensible than shipping wood pellets (made from virgin wood) from Canada to Immingham, to then be driven by road to power stations in the UK which sit on a coal field. It is only subsidy policies which make such a system viable.

 

[franklin]

The cost of most things we all do / discuss here are prohibitive without subsidies.

 

[Brisel]

In an ideal world we would be producing our own electricity/gas from the screenings we produce and from the wasted heat energy from our three driers. However, the costs of such a system would be prohibitive without enormous subsidies. We would also need more space.

There are few things less sensible than shipping wood pellets (made from virgin wood) from Canada to Immingham, to then be driven by road to power stations in the UK which sit on a coal field. It is only subsidy policies which make such a system viable.

True, but it's not just subsidies. Last spring, how could an eastern seaboard US merchant justify shipping wheat from east Dorset (via Openfield) to Portbury, onto a 50,000 tonne boat and across the Atlantic cheaper than it would be to put a load onto a train to cross the Appalachian Mountains from the biggest wheat producing area in the world? Answer = Lower transport costs.