Propino - Any Good

Discussion in 'Cropping' started by mghadley, Mar 15, 2019.

  1. mghadley

    mghadley Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    In the past we have grown a small acreage of Planet spring barley quite successfully, this year can’t get seed but been offered Propino. Is it any good, are there any issues ?
    Many Thanks
    MGH
     
  2. Planet delivered yesterday, ordered Monday with Anglia Farmers. Dalton Seeds, so maybe give them a call.
    I think they are based near the Wash so haulage might be a tad extra but...

    My agronomist reckons 9 out of 10 Propino growers who switched to Planet have stayed with Planet.
     
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  3. neilo

    neilo Member

    Location:
    Montgomeryshire
    I changed from Propino to Planet after having a couple of years we’re a wet spell at harvest led to lots of heads falling off. Otherwise, it’s a good variety. Is it not the top selling variety in the UK? That must mean something.

    I bought new Planet seed this time, as i wasn’t keen on keeping my own after a late, damp harvest. TGW on the bag is 40. Is that a record low?:scratchhead:
     
  4. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
    Unless you have a good end market with a decent price I wouldn't bother with propino. (I speak as a 100% propino grower but as a variety I don't really rate it).
     
  5. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    I changed from all Propino to Planet and Laureate. Propino did me well for years but the other 2 yield 5% more which pays for a lot of hassle finding homes for it. Planet is the most popular variety of malting barley in Europe but the maltsters have only recently been forced to use it. Around here, the main market is export to Europe but Burton on Trent use it too. I don't know about the East Anglian maltsters. They don't like change and if they had their way, would never ever change any varieties. Propino is the most marketable variety for a good reason, but is becoming outclassed against the newer varieties for yield. I cant remember any particular issues other than it brackles as soon as it is fully ripe. It is also more sensitive to N fertiliser dose than Planet.

    I'd aim for Planet or Laureate if you can get the seed.
     
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  6. Flat 10

    Flat 10 Member

    Location:
    Fen Edge
    And if you are growing for farm feeding I'm sure someone will have feed variety available.........
     
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  7. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Lots of good feed varieties around Sanette is a failed maltster but yields very well. @mghadley - are you wanting malting or feed?
     
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  8. Devon James

    Devon James Member

    Location:
    Devon
    Have you considered Sienna? Quality sample and yields well
     
  9. mghadley

    mghadley Member

    Location:
    Derbyshire
    Only growing to feed, spring barley fits in well between grass and allows for stubble turnips before spring corn.
    Barley to feed and straw a benefit.
     
  10. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    https://ahdb.org.uk/rl

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    It always used to be the case that you chose a malting variety because they were the highest yielding regardless of quality. That is still true to a large extent.
     
  11. crazy_bull

    crazy_bull Member

    Location:
    Huntingdon
    There is still planet seed about, have a ring around.

    C B
     
  12. Tim G

    Tim G Member

    Location:
    Wormingford, Essex
    I am again growing a very small acreage of spring barley for feed, the advice I was given was to use laureate seed as it out yielded feed varieties anyway. We will see!
     
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  13. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    Scholar does well here for feed barley.
     
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  14. APJ

    APJ Member

    Location:
    West Midlands
    For feed go sienna we’ve grown it for a number of years, always big bold grains even in a dry year.
     
  15. JCfarmer

    JCfarmer Member

    Location:
    warks
    I grow all Propino at the moment, it has done ok in the past but last year it didn't make malting and the odd other year also but feed barley price HAS been good this year and fortunately sold mine before it dropped like a stone! Propino does seem to be more marketable in this country and with Brexit we could be on another PLANET trying to export it to Europe!(excuse the pun) MAY try some next year!?(another pun)
     
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  16. Brisel

    Brisel Member

    Location:
    Dorset
    Good point about the market for Planet. Domestic malting demand is limited. The Europeans like our barley - our quality is more consistent than theirs in adverse seasons plus we drink the fizzy lager it makes. Hopefully the politicians don't get in the way of a perfectly good trade in the barley in both directions!
     
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  17. getting on

    getting on New Member

    Hear Hear
     
  18. cowgirl95

    cowgirl95 Member

    Try Irina if u cant get Planet recommend it
     
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  19. Chae1

    Chae1 Member

    Location:
    Aberdeenshire
    How are you getting on?
     
  20. lloyd

    lloyd Member

    Location:
    Herefordshire
    Mine says 52 and 55
     

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