Prospective pay rise

GlennW

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Always been paid based on a 39 hr week plus o/t at time and a half.
This time I have been offered a choice of a rise carrying on with the same set up , or a higher basic figure plus 1.4 o/t.
Based on my average annual o/t hours, there’s only £140 difference in my gross earnings.
It’s set me wondering why I’ve been offered a choice, or if i’m just overly suspicious 🤔
 

GlennW

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Is your employer paying a percentage of your basic figure into a pension?
something to think about as well.
Have been on the workplace pension since auto enrolment started a few years ago, but as far as I remember it is taken from the total of basic, o/t, and bonuses etc
 

335d

Member
Will you not save a bit of tax on the lesser overtime rate?
How come?
If the op is on PAYE, if You’re paying less tax, you‘re take home is less.

for easy counting if in the first set up the basic is £10 an hour, then o/t is £15.
in the second instance, a basic rate of £10.71 gives an o/t of £15 @1.4.

If you’re think about a loan or mortgage etc, it’ll be based on your basic wage, so maybe advantageous
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Or you could just be grateful you were offered anything....
Or if they decided not to take it they could go somewhere else.
Always been paid based on a 39 hr week plus o/t at time and a half.
This time I have been offered a choice of a rise carrying on with the same set up , or a higher basic figure plus 1.4 o/t.
Based on my average annual o/t hours, there’s only £140 difference in my gross earnings.
It’s set me wondering why I’ve been offered a choice, or if i’m just overly suspicious 🤔
Sounds like they're trying to get clever without offering any real increase.
Only you can decide if its worth it and whether you can do better elsewhere.
Have you tried telling them you prefer the old way and want the raise to be based on that?
 

GlennW

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Or if they decided not to take it they could go somewhere else.

Sounds like they're trying to get clever without offering any real increase.
Only you can decide if its worth it and whether you can do better elsewhere.
Have you tried telling them you prefer the old way and want the raise to be based on that?
Not looking to go elsewhere, am quite happy with the status quo, and either option of pay rise will be a nice little increase.
Just trying to weigh up the pro’s and cons of each, or if there’s an ulterior motive behind the new option that i’m not seeing 🙄
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Not looking to go elsewhere, am quite happy with the status quo, and either option of pay rise will be a nice little increase.
Just trying to weigh up the pro’s and cons of each, or if there’s an ulterior motive behind the new option that i’m not seeing 🙄
Did you ask why they want to change?
I think I read your post wrong too. What time frame is the extra 140 quid over? a week, fortnight, month?
 

GlennW

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Did you ask why they want to change?
I think I read your post wrong too. What time frame is the extra 140 quid over? a week, fortnight, month?
Been sprung on me a bit, the subject was brought up yesterday, the actual figures this afternoon, and decision by tomorrow morning cos its timesheet day 🙄
£140 over the year, using my average annual o/t hours
 

ARW

Member
Location
Yorkshire
How come?
If the op is on PAYE, if You’re paying less tax, you‘re take home is less.
I thought overtime had a different tax rate? I think I’m wrong now
As said why change this? Where’s the benefit?
for easy counting if in the first set up the basic is £10 an hour, then o/t is £15.
in the second instance, a basic rate of £10.71 gives an o/t of £15 @1.4.

If you’re think about a loan or mortgage etc, it’ll be based on your basic wage, so maybe advantageous
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Been sprung on me a bit, the subject was brought up yesterday, the actual figures this afternoon, and decision by tomorrow morning cos its timesheet day 🙄
£140 over the year, using my average annual o/t hours
Your pay rise is 140 quid a year?
That's worse than not getting one in my opinion.
Talks should continue, don't let them push you into a deadline.
 

GlennW

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
£140 yr = £2.91 week, or 7p hr
Unless I’m reading this wrong, not much of a pay increase,

Your pay rise is 140 quid a year?
That's worse than not getting one in my opinion.
Talks should continue, don't let them push you into a deadline.
No, hang on,maybe i’m not explaining it well.
I have been offered two options of payrise,
An increase in basic and overtime at 1.5 or
A bigger increase in basic but overtime at 1.4.
The difference between those 2 options is approx £140/ yr
Which is the better option and why give a choice ? 🤔
 

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