Protein Source

Ted M

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I could process them any idea on the price if them? How long would they last after grinding down?
The one's I bought were about £220/t which was about the same as wheat at the time. I was led to believe that they more or less mirror the wheat price but not sure what they'd be now.
I roll enough for a fortnight each time, been perfectly okay so far. Don't know how long they would keep beyond that sorry, possibly would depend on dry matter maybe
 

Fubar

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The one's I bought were about £220/t which was about the same as wheat at the time. I was led to believe that they more or less mirror the wheat price but not sure what they'd be now.
I roll enough for a fortnight each time, been perfectly okay so far. Don't know how long they would keep beyond that sorry, possibly would depend on dry matter maybe
Last price I saw was around £260. They haven't really moved up at all in the current crisis.
Think there is a maximum amount you can include because of the tannin.
Last year we were better off buying Hipro pellets and selling our beans when we worked out the protein concentration of each against the price of each. Will be a different calculation now.
With everything else rising you would think pulses would follow but it doesn't seem to have been the case. I've been told that because there aren't many grown then a lot of feed companies don't buy them as they want continuity.
Beans are a good feed though.
 
With Soya in the £500s a tonne are there any cheaper alternatives to increase protein to mix with rolled oats/barley?
I use molasses mixed with urea. It’s not anywhere as good as soya and in my opinion shouldn’t be the sole replacement protein source as it’s not a true protein but it can reduce your soya use to make the figures stack up. I buy it ready mixed so just add it to the ration.
I used potale previously with success but I have trouble getting it now. Pot ale and molasses mixed.
Look on KW website it will show you a range of protein products
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
beans usually feed better than quoted. Presume they can be crimped, or treated to last all winter.
Urea, is a good source of protein, and while price is rocketing, av use would be 100gms/head/day.
No doubt like us, this equation is under discussion on many farms.
 

Full of bull(s)

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Yorkshire
beans usually feed better than quoted. Presume they can be crimped, or treated to last all winter.
Urea, is a good source of protein, and while price is rocketing, av use would be 100gms/head/day.
No doubt like us, this equation is under discussion on many farms.
Urea is far better used to treat the grain, maxammon /alpha etc in my experience with the added benefit of the alkali result. Safer too with no chance of poisoning due to lumps or uneven mixing
 

som farmer

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Livestock Farmer
Location
somerset
Not so cheap today, spot price now £2000/ton 😱
Egyptian has replaced Russian, or 'conflict stuff', £1100, more per ton. Timber will go up 30%, 1 apr, and so forth.
No business wants to touch 'conflict' product.
people have demanded action v Russia, not sure they actually realised what it would mean, sure there must be Chelsea fans, rather unhappy !
Sanctions are about the only deterrent, other than war, there are. And war may well still occur, which every effort must be made, to avoid WW3, as that is what it would be.
Putting aside any 'emotional' thoughts, about what is happening, and think cold hearted politics, avoiding war, has to be correct, for us, not Ukraine. But those sanctions, are the last thing we can do, pre direct conflict. And they will cause huge problems here.

Brexit, covid and now Ukraine, have, and will continue to change world politics, we are moving into a new era. And no real idea, of how it will pan out. Ass clenching rides ahead, l think.
 

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A man has pleaded guilty at Newtownards Magistrates’ Court to waste offences relating to a bonfire next to the electrical sub-station on the Circular Road in Newtownards, Co. Down.

Gareth Gill (51) of Abbot’s Walk, Newtownards pleaded guilty to two charges under the Waste and Contaminated Land (Northern Ireland) Order 1997, for which he was fined £150 each and ordered to pay a £15 offender’s levy

On June 25, 2018, PSNI officers went to Gill’s yard, where they found a large amount of waste consisting of scrap wood, pallets, carpet and underlay.

Discussion with Northern Ireland Environment Agency (NIEA) officers confirmed the site...
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