Pto pan type concrete mixers

[Deere 6430]

What are the pros and cons of these pto pan type concrete mixers please?

I have seen a Mamutt one and another one that I know cant remember the brand of, but are there any ones to avoid etc?
Do they mix well?
Are some better than others?

All info greatly received.

 

[Steevo]

Yes they mix well.

The only downside is if you overfill it and the shear bolt breaks so you have to dig it all out.

They’re all a bit of a pig to clean.

@Pan mixer is your man!

 

[kill]

What are the pros and cons of these pto pan type concrete mixers please?

I have seen a Mamutt one and another one that I know cant remember the brand of, but are there any ones to avoid etc?
Do they mix well?
Are some better than others?

All info greatly received.

Personally I'd be going hydraulicly driven rather than pto

 

[Pan mixer]

I can't remember what breed mine is, it is the second that I have had the same, the first one wore through the barrel - after between 1000 and 1200 mixes.

They mix very well, seemingly with less air in them than a barrel mixer.

Overfilling can cause gearbox trouble too, I used to put all the ballast in dry then add water, now I add water whilst I am putting the ballast in and things are easier to run by the sound of the mighty 8210 engine.

They need a heavy tractor, mine without front weights is a bit light and star gazing is easily acheived.

They make a mess of a tractor and they are pigs to clean.

I wouldn't be without it, if you have a lot of jobs that are less then a truck load they are very convenient, the concrete keeps fresh as 2 men lay it as quick as I make it.

Many other threads on here on the subject.

 

[mo!]

We had a Kilworth. Sold it for all the reasons listed in all the other threads. Readymix is much less hassle!

 

[David.]

I have read on here previously that they are prone to shear pin trouble.....

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

We've had a Mandam pto pan mixer for 8 years now, welded new bottoms on the paddles and new scraper bar back in the spring. We've done a blinking shed load of work with it.

Mixes very well, cracking bit of kit, builders can't get over it! Load with the digger, whole bags of cement, buckets of water, can mix and lay at your own pace, poke in to places you wouldn't dream of putting a lorry. Only ever broken one shear bolt because I was being greedy/lazy and left the water till last, tipped a shed load of water on, new bolt, few revs and engaged pto and luckily it went!

Pig to clean, yes, always, always wash it out like new, drop it off, then wash the tractor. Weights are a must. Haven't found one as heavy built as ours since....

Will post some pics.

 

[whindy]

We had one a mamut it was fine .
We sold it because it was as cheap to get local barrow mix wagon in. You need an old tractor as it will end up covered in splatter

 

[Dave W]

I've got a kilworth here. Not sure who it's made by, assume it's a rebadge job.
It's a self loading twin rotor thing that can either mount on pallet forks or has skid steer brackets (although I've yet to see many skidsteers that would pick it up full of concrete, must be near 2ton full)
It's a brilliant bit of kit. Has discharge chutes on either side or you can use it like a bucket and pour out the front behind shuttering.
Never used a pto version but this is hydraulic. Only had it stalled once when there wasn't enough water in the mix.

 

[wasted years]

@Dave W do you fill it using the scoop on the front or with a loader?
Doesn't look like the scoop has done much and would be a little trial and error to fill that way?

 

[Dave W]

@Dave W do you fill it using the scoop on the front or with a loader?
Doesn't look like the scoop has done much and would be a little trial and error to fill that way?

I've been filling it with mini digger to make life easier. It would be a bit trial and error I guess but you'd soon get the hang of it I reckon

 

[TripleSix]

I'd go for a hydraulic driven one, very handy to have it on the forks of the telehandler....

 

[Pan mixer]

I'd go for a hydraulic driven one, very handy to have it on the forks of the telehandler....

I thought about that but then would need a third handler on the concreting job, one to load, one to take wet concrete and tip it into a wall or difficult to access place and a third to run the mixer.

I haven't got three telehandlers.........

 

[TripleSix]

I thought about that but then would need a third handler on the concreting job, one to load, one to take wet concrete and tip it into a wall or difficult to access place and a third to run the mixer.

I haven't got three telehandlers.........

Nah!
Drop the mixer on the floor.
Load sand with handler, pick back up, mix, then drive to where you need it and lift the mixer up and empty the concrete into wall/hole straight from the mixer.

 

[essexpete]

W

I can't remember what breed mine is, it is the second that I have had the same, the first one wore through the barrel - after between 1000 and 1200 mixes.

They mix very well, seemingly with less air in them than a barrel mixer.

Overfilling can cause gearbox trouble too, I used to put all the ballast in dry then add water, now I add water whilst I am putting the ballast in and things are easier to run by the sound of the mighty 8210 engine.

They need a heavy tractor, mine without front weights is a bit light and star gazing is easily acheived.

They make a mess of a tractor and they are pigs to clean.

I wouldn't be without it, if you have a lot of jobs that are less then a truck load they are very convenient, the concrete keeps fresh as 2 men lay it as quick as I make it.

Many other threads on here on the subject.

Would I be right in thinking that in the past it may even have been 1 man and 1 girl?

 

[Pan mixer]

W

Would I be right in thinking that in the past it may even have been 1 man and 1 girl?

We operate an inclusive concreting policy. Which of the dusky maidens who have hefted a tamp around here are you referring to? pm if you like.

 

[Pan mixer]

Nah!
Drop the mixer on the floor.
Load sand with handler, pick back up, mix, then drive to where you need it and lift the mixer up and empty the concrete into wall/hole straight from the mixer.

I wouldn't like to try and start the paddles when everything is already in there.

 

[Dave W]

I wouldn't like to try and start the paddles when everything is already in there.

No. Doesn't work. I found out the hard way on the first trial run

 

[avag]

We've had a Mandam pto pan mixer for 8 years now, welded new bottoms on the paddles and new scraper bar back in the spring. We've done a blinking shed load of work with it.

Mixes very well, cracking bit of kit, builders can't get over it! Load with the digger, whole bags of cement, buckets of water, can mix and lay at your own pace, poke in to places you wouldn't dream of putting a lorry. Only ever broken one shear bolt because I was being greedy/lazy and left the water till last, tipped a shed load of water on, new bolt, few revs and engaged pto and luckily it went!

Pig to clean, yes, always, always wash it out like new, drop it off, then wash the tractor. Weights are a must. Haven't found one as heavy built as ours since....

Will post some pics.

A Mandan mixer has come up for sale locally google doesn’t show much about them but this thread came up in the search, is it gearbox or chain drive? And what’s the general opinion of the machine thanks

 

[Ali_Maxxum]

A Mandan mixer has come up for sale locally google doesn’t show much about them but this thread came up in the search, is it gearbox or chain drive? And what’s the general opinion of the machine thanks

Funny, the day you asked this we were actually using it.

Ours is gear box.

The Mandam is the best pan mixer I’ve seen in terms of build, by far the heaviest. It’s done very well for us, 14yr old now. We did weld a new side scraper onto ours and we had to weld new strips on the bottom of the paddles as we had worn them out quite well. I always wash it back out to brand new after every use, certainly pays to keep it tidy.

I would maybe go for a hydraulic driven one whenever the time comes to change.