The Seeker
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were gonna end up voting for no one tho coz none of the rest are any better
Anyone would be better than her
Anyone would be better than her
maybes her predercessor mr AB wasnt much more use mind... there all the same well most of them are.were gonna end up voting for no one tho coz none of the rest are any better
Anyone would be better than her
George never heard of inflation, I had a bit of a reckon up the other day, my store lamb average was up 20%, store cattle up not quite as much, but everything I seem to want to buy has gone up by about 20%, and I reckon it'll be a good while yet before prices settle down. They seem to be making it up as they go along.maybe else where in the thread ,
just seen this in the FT
George Eustice, environment secretary, said: “We disagree with many of the points made by the committee which fail to take account of recent developments. “Farm incomes have improved significantly since the UK voted to leave the EU in 2016 and there will never be a better time to improve the way we reward farmers.”
so they are taking credit for post covid shortage increasing pricing , what happens when we are back to normal ? you nob !
Perhaps we should invite him on here?
He is my local but be warned he is a real "yes" man and is rated 650th worst MP out of 650. I am sure his best mate Allen will be talking to him as he only has 15K acres to play withHave just emailed Sir Geoffrey, pointing him to this thread and asking him what we should do next.
As said, it really needs folks who farm in his constituency to talk to him.
Mr Beith fought our corner. A bit before my time, but in the late 80s we de-stocked cattle over winter while we built a new shed. I think it was something like they pre-dated how much BSP you could claim to the period when we had no cattle. MAFF not interested but Alan Beith helped us to get it sorted out. I can’t see AMT going in to bat for us in the same way.maybes her predercessor mr AB wasnt much more use mind... there all the same well most of them are.
Lets get a photo & were doings so much for the area. Yeah right
What's the best payment rate per hectare if you can cut all or most of your costs out at the same time?Looks like I'll have to get a job and put the farm down to LR/rewilding. Oh, hang on, I've got less than 500ha, so I'm not allowed to do that option.
Can't remember. Is max SFI going to be about £150/ha.What's the best payment rate per hectare if you can cut all or most of your costs out at the same time?
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@Janet Hughes Defra
To put it another way:
You have seen merit in putting a lower cap on one third of the ELMS budget, ie LR has to be a minimum of 500Ha. If that is legal and justifiable, do you not see any merit in putting an upper cap on the third of ELMS that is SFI ?
@Janet Hughes Defra
This PAC report then. It contains a number of recommendations, and puts a timeframe on them. Some of them are rather pressing:
Recommendation: The Department should urgently write to the Committee by the end of January 2022 to explain how it is using the current pilot of SFI to get feedback on the complexity of ELM, especially for smaller farm businesses and tenant farmers, and what changes it will make to alleviate any perceived complexity.
Two questions:
1) What does 'recommendation' mean ? Are Defra obliged to follow them, or can you just ignore ?
2) If obliged to follow them, who is that falling to ? Is this in your hands ? Or a colleague ? That is to say, who do we pester ?
Exactly, I am surrounded by large estates, they certainly aren't going to invite little old me on to the gravy train, just wait for me to go under then hey presto, rub tummy time, all done at tax payers expense, as per normal.How is '500ha minimum application area' not aimed at large landowners?
Its not free moneySay £35/ha seed, £35 drilling cost, £20 destruction
Doesn't need to be that much. Don't forget, plenty of farms are doing this out of a normal farming budget. Obviously there is a cost, but he cs option SW6 for cover crops is going to pay £114 a ha, so quite handy if you are already doing it.
What this and other threads are doing is help farmers plan ahead. I can't see them bringing back any of the old, do what you like, area based subs. So people are rightly looking at the unsubsidised part of the business and how it will stand up on its own.
What I see is free money; and depending on what I am prepared to do and spend to get it, might or might not be worth the arseache. Treat is as another crop in the rotaion if you like. If it doesn't pay enough, don't do it. Then concentrate on making a living from the rest of the farm.
A lot is going to have to change. We all know how much food you can get from a veg patch. Growing malting barley or sugar beet is hardly going to save the world, but at current values, it's the safer and easier option. Beer and sugar are both luxury items and the bi products go for animal feed. Plenty of food at the moment, otherwise the market or the govt would be forcing change now rather than the next 5 to 10 years.
Sorry I missed this - the Government is required to do a formal written response to the recommendations, which the Committee will then normally publish. This process takes a couple of months, normally, to come to fruition.
Wonder if they'll allow SW6 to tick the box for SFI Intermediate level cover crops?Say £35/ha seed, £35 drilling cost, £20 destruction
Doesn't need to be that much. Don't forget, plenty of farms are doing this out of a normal farming budget. Obviously there is a cost, but he cs option SW6 for cover crops is going to pay £114 a ha, so quite handy if you are already doing it.
Sorry please can I clarify: do you mean a cap on how much funding any individual farm could get from the scheme?bump
@Janet Hughes Defra
To put it another way:
You have seen merit in putting a lower cap on one third of the ELMS budget, ie LR has to be a minimum of 500Ha. If that is legal and justifiable, do you not see any merit in putting an upper cap on the third of ELMS that is SFI ?
Yes that's correct, we won't pay you twice for the same things so if you're already being paid through CS, you couldn't get paid twice to do the same thing on the same piece of landWonder if they'll allow SW6 to tick the box for SFI Intermediate level cover crops?
Seem to think Janet said they won't pay for things twice if already funded from stewardship??? Haven't read any detail about the rules on this one.
Would the existing SW6 tick the SFI box, or would the SFI cover crop need to be additional? If they are saying they won't fund things twice, then I'm guessing the SW6 won't count for the SFI requirement???
Thanks Janet.Yes that's correct, we won't pay you twice for the same things so if you're already being paid through CS, you couldn't get paid twice to do the same thing on the same piece of land
Sorry please can I clarify: do you mean a cap on how much funding any individual farm could get from the scheme?