Public Accounts Committee enquiry into ELMS

[delilah]

Have just received the Public Accounts Committee report on ELMS, and associated press release. I think 'damning' pretty much covers it. It is embargoed until Sunday so will post on here then, just starting a thread now in case anyone else who has had it is less worried about such niceties and wants to put it up now.
(go on @holwellcourtfarm you know you want to ).

 

[Ffermer Bach]

I guess those of us in Wales are unaffected by any of this?

 

[Hindsight]

Have just received the Public Accounts Committee report on ELMS, and associated press release. I think 'damning' pretty much covers it. It is embargoed until Sunday so will post on here then, just starting a thread now in case anyone else who has had it is less worried about such niceties and wants to put it up now.
(go on @holwellcourtfarm you know you want to ).

Patience is a virtue young man. I still have two Xmas presents to unwrap yet.

 

[Bald Rick]

I guess those of us in Wales are unaffected by any of this?

Only by default ... in that our glorious overlords will see how it pans out for the Saes and then magpie the better bits (although it is very unlikely that they would have such foresight)

90% of Wales is LFA so not much needs to be changed IMO esp if you want to retain farmers - and by default - the language

 

[neilo]

I guess those of us in Wales are unaffected by any of this?

Yes, it’s England/DEFRA only.

Our lot have decided, probably wisely, to see how much flack DEFRA get, before coming up with their own, probably equally damaging, Ag bill. Due this Spring I think.

 

[topground]

Can’t hurt to guess the content can it?
Any reference to the lack of any measurable outcomes?

 

[delilah]

Can’t hurt to guess the content can it?
Any reference to the lack of any measurable outcomes?

Plenty.

 

[robs1]

Got to love these parliamentary committees, usually made up of people who have trouble tying their own shoe laces and know f**k all about the subject criticising things in hindsight

 

[Sid]

Got to love these parliamentary committees, usually made up of people who have trouble tying their own shoe laces and know f**k all about the subject criticising things in hindsight

You've got that confused with some vocal TFF members?

Won't stick their necks out and engage.

Criticise with hindsight.

 

[delilah]

Report and press release.

If you do nothing else, read the conclusions and recommendations pp 5-9.

 

[Muddyroads]

So if the public accounts committee can see all this, why can’t DEFRA?

 

[delilah]

Good to hear the report just been a main headline on R4.

 

[spin cycle]

i saw a 'snippet; ....must say it looked pretty damning

 

[Humble Village Farmer]

I've read most of it. It just shows what a mess Europe and the corporate food system have got us into really.

I don't think the incompetence is news, it's ongoing. You read that and wonder what the hell MAFF and defra have been doing for the last 50 years.

 

[onesiedale]

I've rad most of it. It just shows what a mess Europe and the corporate food system have got us into really.

I don't think the incompetence is news, it's ongoing. You read that and wonder what the hell MAFF and defra have been doing for the last 50 years.

sadly, I think you're right.
It's a sticking plaster on a broken food system.

 

[topground]

Anyone know how much clout the Public Accounts Committee wields and is it sufficient for George Eustice to have to order a change of approach?

 

[GeorgeK]

It's not April 1st is it? Highly irregular for an official document, almost looks to have been written by people with an ounce of common sense.

 

[Jonp]

Reading the summary there's nothing encouraging in there for the future of UK farming.

 

[delilah]

Reading the summary there's nothing encouraging in there for the future of UK farming.

The summary is the PAC assessment of where ELMS is currently at. It is the conclusions and recommendations that is the important bit.

 

[Muck Spreader]

Looks damming but not really unexpected. Boris' trade mark is basically to wing it and hope he doesn't ever get called to account. Be interesting to see how much money ever actually gets to farmers in the end. From what I remember, about 40% of CAP money was syphoned off by the government for its administration costs.