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<blockquote data-quote="delilah" data-source="post: 7935666" data-attributes="member: 76758"><p>A flat rate of £148/yr, plus £6.45/Ha.</p><p>is identical to</p><p>£6.45/Ha.</p><p>That is to say, £148 is such a tiny sum of money it isn't worth Defra administering it or a farmer claiming it. What will £148 buy me ? A tyre for the van ? Half a dozen energy buckets ? A pot to p!ss in ?</p><p></p><p>So, no, it's not remotely the same as a higher rate for the first xHa.</p><p>No matter, I think we both see where I am coming form, so I will plough on (don't think it's banned yet <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite20" alt=":ROFLMAO:" title="ROFL :ROFLMAO:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":ROFLMAO:" /> ).</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have dug out a fair few Govt papers pertinent to ELMS. I consider this one to be the most important of the lot.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/666713/structure-june-eng-lessfavouredareas-13dec17.xls#:~:text=Less%20Favoured%20Areas%20(LFA)%20were,Disadvantaged%20Areas%27%20(SDA)." target="_blank">https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/666713/structure-june-eng-lessfavouredareas-13dec17.xls#:~:text=Less%20Favoured%20Areas%20(LFA)%20were,Disadvantaged%20Areas'%20(SDA).</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>I really, really hope that your team are familiar with the contents, and are constantly referencing it as they carry out their desk top studies into different ideas for ELMS.</p><p></p><p>We have to keep those farms farming. If we don't, then ELMS fails. We need to go further than that. We need to see the number of farming businesses increase. If we do that, then ELMS is a success. Critical mass.</p><p><a href="https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/critical-mass.358840/" target="_blank">https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/critical-mass.358840/</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>The crux of it is this:</p><p>- You need to develop standards that pay a high enough rate in order for those farms to survive. </p><p>- If you pay that rate on every Ha, you exceed your budget.</p><p>- There is only one way to square that circle; a higher rate on the first xHa.</p><p>Yes ?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delilah, post: 7935666, member: 76758"] A flat rate of £148/yr, plus £6.45/Ha. is identical to £6.45/Ha. That is to say, £148 is such a tiny sum of money it isn't worth Defra administering it or a farmer claiming it. What will £148 buy me ? A tyre for the van ? Half a dozen energy buckets ? A pot to p!ss in ? So, no, it's not remotely the same as a higher rate for the first xHa. No matter, I think we both see where I am coming form, so I will plough on (don't think it's banned yet :ROFLMAO: ). I have dug out a fair few Govt papers pertinent to ELMS. I consider this one to be the most important of the lot. [URL='https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/666713/structure-june-eng-lessfavouredareas-13dec17.xls#:~:text=Less%20Favoured%20Areas%20(LFA)%20were,Disadvantaged%20Areas%27%20(SDA).']https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/666713/structure-june-eng-lessfavouredareas-13dec17.xls#:~:text=Less%20Favoured%20Areas%20(LFA)%20were,Disadvantaged%20Areas'%20(SDA).[/URL] I really, really hope that your team are familiar with the contents, and are constantly referencing it as they carry out their desk top studies into different ideas for ELMS. We have to keep those farms farming. If we don't, then ELMS fails. We need to go further than that. We need to see the number of farming businesses increase. If we do that, then ELMS is a success. Critical mass. [URL]https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/critical-mass.358840/[/URL] The crux of it is this: - You need to develop standards that pay a high enough rate in order for those farms to survive. - If you pay that rate on every Ha, you exceed your budget. - There is only one way to square that circle; a higher rate on the first xHa. Yes ? [/QUOTE]
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