PurchasingFord 4000 or similar H.P,advice rqd

[multi power]

You surely dont think that when a fergy first appeared on a farm a full range of new implements came with it?
Lots of places a linkbox would be the first priorty, used for everything, from taking mother to market, carrying milk churns to the stand. Everyday life on a small livestock farm would involve the linkbox at nearly every stage on a farm owning a 20.
A belt pulley would be another essential bit.
fergy was quite clever in making many bits that were specific to the 20, and wouldent fit anything else.
and only 1 spanner needed, a big one end and a small one other end with a inch ruler cast in.
ally bonnets and cast ally or magnesium ? castings

Things go round , twas funny to see at the royal an area displaying horse drawn adaptors for 3 point linkeage implements.
And now the gators and mules are becoming the new 20 and linkbox replacement

certinly our grey fergie came with a set of impliments, according to dad that was quite normal

 

[multi power]

thing was, the fergy didnt have enough built in weight to drag either converted horsedrawn equipment, or implements designed for fordson N's and the like

thats why most farms what bought a fergy still had an older bigger (usually an E27N or similar) tractor capable of lugging the things about what the fergy couldnt cope with

the whole point of the fergie was tractor n impliment was intragated as one unit, it didnt need the size or weight to drag anything
and as for ferguson building pto driven equipment with an 1.1/8th shaft, when everyone else had standardised on 1.3/8th...where was the sense in that

yes ferguson may have ben a genuis in some instances, but in many others he was adamant that everyone else should adapt to his way of thinking. Take the ill fated TE60, it had so many design limititaions that once the americans at MH see the designs, they binned it and started afresh....

 

[blackbob]

well i never seen any horse impliments that would have suited 3 point linkage

Now look, son, you're too young to have been to roups (farm dispersal/retirement sales) and seen converted horse-drawn mowers, turners, rakes, carts, seed drills, harrows, tattie-diggers etc etc which have mostly been scrapped over the years.. I admit most of these had the 'pole' shortened and a blacksmith-made clevis drawbar fitted, but a common mounted implement here was what we called 'spring teeth', for breaking down ploughing, made from horse-drawn harrows, a bit like this:

 

[joe soapy]

Now look, son, you're too young to have been to roups (farm dispersal/retirement sales) and seen converted horse-drawn mowers, turners, rakes, carts, seed drills, harrows, tattie-diggers etc etc which have mostly been scrapped over the years.. I admit most of these had the 'pole' shortened and a blacksmith-made clevis drawbar fitted, but a common mounted implement here was what we called 'spring teeth', for breaking down ploughing, made from horse-drawn harrows, a bit like this: View attachment 58590

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that pic brings back memories, had to watch you dident turn too sharp and catch the chain in a spadelug

 

[multi power]

Now look, son, you're too young to have been to roups (farm dispersal/retirement sales) and seen converted horse-drawn mowers, turners, rakes, carts, seed drills, harrows, tattie-diggers etc etc which have mostly been scrapped over the years.. I admit most of these had the 'pole' shortened and a blacksmith-made clevis drawbar fitted, but a common mounted implement here was what we called 'spring teeth', for breaking down ploughing, made from horse-drawn harrows, a bit like this: View attachment 58590

ha i have seen the odd horse drawn thing converted to drawbar, dad has a tattie digger n a massey harris seed drill in the lawn n both been converted, ferguson sold a mounted spring tooth harrow very similar to your photo, its worth remembering grey fergie was the first tractor on almost every farm round our way so there were no big trailed stuff around

 

[blackbob]

Ah I'm probably wrong then and most of the spring teeth were maybe Fergusons, maybe half the width of that thing in the [Google] photo? Not seen one for years.
I was born 1960 and am trying to think back as far as I can to what our neighbours had, mostly 35's/135's and greys, a couple of farms with Majors, another with a DB (Cropmaster?), school pal's dad did contracting with a Nuffield. I can just remember a threshing mill coming to our place, pulled by a yellow tractor (M-M perhaps?) and another threshing contractor retired a few years ago and sold his big I-H, something like a WD-6, which he'd bought new. An old chap used to come down occasionally to visit on his Fergie, he never had a car and I don't think he ever had electricity either, conversation was always slow as he was mesmerised by our telly!
But yes in this mainly livestock area, the only big machines belonged to contractors

 

[multi power]

there cant be many of the fergie spring tooth ones about now, dad has a fergie plain spike harrow, 3 sections n folds up, he bought it in a farm sale a couple of years ago but i can remember when he was growing barley the fergie spike harrow n fergie disc working ploughed ground , thats all the cultivation kit we had then, apart from fergie plough of course, all used with the 65 n 4 cyl 35
i too can remember an old man with no car, he used to go visiting on his 135