Pushing The Limits Of The Barley

eagleye

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Location
co down
today its been mild at about 7C, damp without actual rain.
we have not had really cold weather so far. mild all over christmas and new year
up to 10C at times. barley still green.
 

franklin

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Grew a bit. Has stopped again. Too cold to go and count tillers.
 

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franklin

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I drove past some today on some badly waterlogged clay which looked complete turd. Also drive past some much more lush than mine, but it had muck and was ploughed for. Agronomist maintained he was happy drilling up to end 3rd week in October but we put in an *ahem* trial strip end October and it is not at all great.
 

Flat 10

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Arable Farmer
Location
Fen Edge
I drove past some today on some badly waterlogged clay which looked complete turd. Also drive past some much more lush than mine, but it had muck and was ploughed for. Agronomist maintained he was happy drilling up to end 3rd week in October but we put in an *ahem* trial strip end October and it is not at all great.
Mine was mucked and ploughed so I would expect it to be better. when was yours drilled? Mine around 5th Oct which I suspect was a little later than ideal but trying to avoid drilling too early due to BG.
 

franklin

New Member
8th to 10th October. That field is the kindest soil but latest drilled. Didnt plough, so seedbed was fairly fine although dry. Good kill of volunteer wheat.
 
I am dubious about drilling barley late, and even more dubious about it being put in heavy land that I know tends to hang wet. The persistence of people drilling it behind maize baffles me as well. It doesn't like it, however you want to dress it up, it is no good expecting bumper yields from winter barley if it can't tiller and grow freely. In my next adventure with it I am considering lifting the seed rate but it is a tillers game ultimately and I can't control how many weeks it will be sat in clart in Feb and March, hence my predilection and insistence for growing it on the cheap.

Think a dose of broiler muck in the autumn prior to sowing would be a good move as well so there is a drip effect of N and a smash of K supplied throughout the winter to keep it going.

Regarding the disease in barley at present, unless the crop was totally pickled in it I think I would leave it alone and look at the middle of Feb again.
 

eagleye

Member
Location
co down
I would agree with all you have said above, however this past autumn we drilled barley behind maize which was cut 12 october in perfect conditions in medium loam. Its looking very well and will be pushed all the way to harvest. I would suggest barley is not for heavy clay ground which sits wet over winter (as you have said) if you really must try that use vigourous hybrid as we have noticed they seem to survive better on headlands and any wet hollows - just an observation.
Interesting comment about broiler litter, we do a bit of that if we can with good results.
 

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
bit of mildew on our winter barley, Bazooka, some was sprayed with Corbel/Bravo 2 months ago.
Expect 4+tonnes/acre , worth spraying?

Bazooka is pretty good on disease susceptibility. Volume on the other hand...

If you can't bear the sight of it then stick a couple of litres of manganese on it. It's quite good on mildew indirectly. Otherwise, wait until it is at GS 30 with stems erect then do a cheapo T0 with trace elements.
 

franklin

New Member
Last barley on lorry. Didnt need to trouble Noris McWhirter.

Stood bit did 9t/ha. Flat bit did 7t/ha. £125t ex farm price. About £34/ac for the straw. Going to need to look better at input timings.....and never leave out the Terpal.
 

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