Putin's farmer

[Princess Pooper]

Came across this, mainly dairying but no doubt of wider interest. Sobering analysis of the effect of sanctions (!) and the scale and professionalism of farming in modern Russia.

 

[Yale]

Seen that on here before.

Very impressive however has the feel of propaganda.

 

[vantage]

Clever chap,running with the hounds and the hare!
Taking advantage of a good opportunity.

 

[glasshouse]

Clever chap,running with the hounds and the hare!
Taking advantage of a good opportunity.

He will say the wrong thing one day and disappear

 

[topground]

Went to Moscow and St Petersburg two years ago. The range of dairy products on the Supermarkets was as good if not better than in the UK. Sanctions encouraged self sufficiency and another market closed to EU farmers. Another example of EU politicians screwing up.

 

[glasshouse]

Went to Moscow and St Petersburg two years ago. The range of dairy products on the Supermarkets was as good if not better than in the UK. Sanctions encouraged self sufficiency and another market closed to EU farmers. Another example of EU politicians screwing up.

We had a group of russians visit scotland in 1989. When they were taken to a supermarket they burst into tears at the sight of all the food with not a queue in sight

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Went to Moscow and St Petersburg two years ago. The range of dairy products on the Supermarkets was as good if not better than in the UK. Sanctions encouraged self sufficiency and another market closed to EU farmers. Another example of EU politicians screwing up.

This had nothing to do with EU politicians screwing up. The sanctions were put in place when Russia invaded Crimea by force and was the only reprisal made without going to a full blown war.
Yes Russia has been trying to increase self sufficiency for a long time with mixed success, however there are still food shortages and massive corruption. I was in Georgia around 5 years ago and met a group of farmers and was given a loaf of bread as a gift!

The bread is significant!

 

[oil barron]

This had nothing to do with EU politicians screwing up. The sanctions were put in place when Russia invaded Crimea by force and was the only reprisal made without going to a full blown war.
Yes Russia has been trying to increase self sufficiency for a long time with mixed success, however there are still food shortages and massive corruption. I was in Georgia around 5 years ago and met a group of farmers and was given a loaf of bread as a gift!

The bread is significant!

But they invaded the Crimea because Germany was trying to do a trade deal with the Ukraine, which they were told was out bounds after the war.

 

[Highland Mule]

But they invaded the Crimea because Germany was trying to do a trade deal with the Ukraine, which they were told was out bounds after the war.

Germany, or the EU?

 

[topground]

Germany, or the EU?

One and the same surely?

 

[Highland Mule]

Who do you blame for the Iraq war? Blair, Prodi or Hussein?

 

[Pivo]

Good for mr Durr, while it lasts. Politburo have a name for it: “useful idiots”. Once the business is in an optimal operating mode, people that have built it might fall out of favour... as many Germans, Poles, Finns... have learnt on previous occasions.

 

[oil barron]

Who do you blame for the Iraq war? Blair, Prodi or Hussein?

Cheyney

 

[bumkin]

Who do you blame for the Iraq war? Blair, Prodi or Hussein?

who's prodi lets just blame the west they encouraged Husein and sold him the arms then sent the boys in to kick the sh!t out of him leaving it wide open for isis

 

[oil barron]

who's prodi lets just blame the west they encouraged Husein and sold him the arms then sent the boys in to kick the sh!t out of him leaving it wide open for isis

So the legendary scud missile is western then?

 

[bumkin]

So the legendary scud missile is western then?

ok the west and the ruskeys sold him stuff and the yanks encouraged him

 

[Muck Spreader]

But they invaded the Crimea because Germany was trying to do a trade deal with the Ukraine, which they were told was out bounds after the war.

Why would the Ukraine need Moscow's permission to do a trade deal with the EU which they have. The fact is that Ukraine actually did a trade deal with Moscow in preference to the EU in 2013, something to do with several billion dollars of "free" money. But from there on Moscow has steadily been trying ring the Ukraine's neck with tariffs, embargoes and invasions.

 

[oil barron]

Why would the Ukraine need Moscow's permission to do a trade deal with the EU which they have. The fact is that Ukraine actually did a trade deal with Moscow in preference to the EU in 2013, something to do with several billion dollars of "free" money. But from there on Moscow has steadily been trying ring the Ukraine's neck with tariffs, embargoes and invasions.

Do you think America would just sit on its hands if Hawaii voted to leave the union and form a trade alliance with China. I think not, they would be quickly educated in democracy.

The Germans were told pretty clearly the boundary for expansion in the future after the war, and they crossed the line.

 

[Highland Mule]

Do you think America would just sit on its hands if Hawaii voted to leave the union and form a trade alliance with China. I think not, they would be quickly educated in democracy.

The Germans were told pretty clearly the boundary for expansion in the future after the war, and they crossed the line.

Which war are you referring to, @oil barron ?

 

[glasshouse]

Do you think America would just sit on its hands if Hawaii voted to leave the union and form a trade alliance with China. I think not, they would be quickly educated in democracy.

The Germans were told pretty clearly the boundary for expansion in the future after the war, and they crossed the line.

78 yrs ago it was german panzers rolling over the steppe, now its german lexions