Pz 300 haybob

[Farmer2]

I am currently looking at one of these for doing the bit of hay I do.What things should I look at\check when at it.thanks

 

[hendrebc]

I am currently looking at one of these for doing the bit of hay I do.What things should I look at\check when at it.thanks

Just wait for all the posts about how crap they are
They're pretty solid machines I've seen ones literally dragged out of a scrap pile be put to work... and then another one pulled out of the scrap to get a working machine from 2.... and that one went for years apparently.
If it looks in good nick it probably is. Look out for wear on the headstock they can crack there but they are easy enough to weld back up. Mine has done quite a lot of work since I welded ours and I'm no pro welder.
Make sure the wheels move up and down. Not the end of the world if they don't but it does work better if they do move.
Buy plenty of tines and be ready to replace back gates as well.

 

[Dave W]

I am currently looking at one of these for doing the bit of hay I do.What things should I look at\check when at it.thanks

Biggest thing is that the wheels slide up and down. Most don't and are seized in middle hole.
Then learn how to set it up correctly.
A lot of people say they're rubbish but these are probably the same people who don't know how to set them up.

 

[Werzle]

Check the headstock and main beam hasnt been welded and there isnt play in the rota's.

 

[ridger]

Biggest thing is that the wheels slide up and down. Most don't and are seized in middle hole.
Then learn how to set it up correctly.
A lot of people say they're rubbish but these are probably the same people who don't know how to set them up.

My wheels are seized and won't move no matter what

 

[james ds]

I am currently looking at one of these for doing the bit of hay I do.What things should I look at\check when at it.thanks

Check that all the springs that keep the tynes up are working , the tynes should all be faving upwards when not working.

 

[yellowbelly]

My wheels are seized and won't move no matter what

It takes about a day for 2 blokes, a set of oxy-acetylene bottles, a fudgin big hammer and a lot of sweat and swearing to free 'em off.......

.....and if you don't keep 'em oiled and it lives outside, you'll need to do it again next year.

Having said that, back to the OP, we have two, (one is a very early one pre 300 model) that we just use for spreading/turning and they just keep on going. Both been welded up, both had a crown wheel and pinion but they've done acres and acres and had a serious amount of abuse with rough ground and rough drivers.
They don't owe us much.

There are better modern tedders and rakes available nowadays but I doubt any of them will have the lifespan of a good old haybob.

 

[miniconnect]

check neither of the rotors are bent, if you can, have it running, and see that there's no wobble in them. can get bent crossing a wheel rut or old plough furrow etc.

 

[IOW91]

Biggest thing is that the wheels slide up and down. Most don't and are seized in middle hole.
Then learn how to set it up correctly.
A lot of people say they're rubbish but these are probably the same people who don't know how to set them up.

Until this season only ever used a haybob for our hay and never had a problem. Just slow going only doing single rows. As you said set up is key.

Pretty solid machines as has already been said. If you can find one that's been kept under cover then it will be a very good buy.

 

[hendrebc]

It takes about a day for 2 blokes, a set of oxy-acetylene bottles, a fudgin big hammer and a lot of sweat and swearing to free 'em off.......

.....and if you don't keep 'em oiled and it lives outside, you'll need to do it again next year.

Having said that, back to the OP, we have two, (one is a very early one pre 300 model) that we just use for spreading/turning and they just keep on going. Both been welded up, both had a crown wheel and pinion but they've done acres and acres and had a serious amount of abuse with rough ground and rough drivers.
They don't owe us much.

There are better modern tedders and rakes available nowadays but I doubt any of them will have the lifespan of a good old haybob.

Hard to kill a haybob isn't it. One of the ones I helped pull out of the scrap came back to the yard because it was on fire because the bearing siezed. We pulled the thing apart and took a bearing off the other scrap one, maybe the whole rotor for that side as well I can't remember now, and went straight back out

 

[IOW91]

Hard to kill a haybob isn't it. One of the ones I helped pull out of the scrap came back to the yard because it was on fire because the bearing siezed. We pulled the thing apart and took a bearing off the other scrap one, maybe the whole rotor for that side as well I can't remember now, and went straight back out

Yeah I remember growing up dad keeping two, and always making one good one out the pair. Then he bought a brand new sitrex 300 in 2003 which has never been a problem.

Adapted an old wood chisel into a tool for putting tine springs on.

As I have said on the haymaking thread. We are using our contractors Claas Volto 770 this year, and probably end up buying either our own Volto or the Krone equivalent for next season.

 

[7610 super q]

Headstock more often than not will have been repaired. Make sure it's been welded back straight.
Great machines. Made every blade of hay in the UK between 1975- 1995. Then tractors got bigger.....rather than folks admitting they've got a tractor that's 200hp too much......they try and blame the Haybob for doing a bad job, and then justify buying a 10 rotor tedder. Strange times indeed.

 

[Dave W]

It takes about a day for 2 blokes, a set of oxy-acetylene bottles, a fudgin big hammer and a lot of sweat and swearing to free 'em off.......

.....and if you don't keep 'em oiled and it lives outside, you'll need to do it again next year.

Having said that, back to the OP, we have two, (one is a very early one pre 300 model) that we just use for spreading/turning and they just keep on going. Both been welded up, both had a crown wheel and pinion but they've done acres and acres and had a serious amount of abuse with rough ground and rough drivers.
They don't owe us much.

There are better modern tedders and rakes available nowadays but I doubt any of them will have the lifespan of a good old haybob.

I used to refurb haybobs in a previous life. It's a couple hours job once you know what you're doing. And definitely no hammer needed!!

 

[yellowbelly]

I used to refurb haybobs in a previous life. It's a couple hours job once you know what you're doing. And definitely no hammer needed!!

I'll bow to your greater wisdom

Like I said, we don't use ours to row up anymore, we set them in the spreading position and left them there.

 

[andybk]

Not much to go wrong just general rust , and play in rotors , keep an eye out for a 360haybob , your baler man will thank you , basically a haybob 300 , that can change into a rake with a little gear change , saves hours baling , ours is just used to row up, the basic haybob for spreading out

 

[C.J]

It takes about a day for 2 blokes, a set of oxy-acetylene bottles, a fudgin big hammer and a lot of sweat and swearing to free 'em off.......

I've done 3 sides in the last 12 months - the last one only took me 4/5 hours now I know what I'm doing , only propane mind - can't afford to pay BOC for oxygen.

Best advice is to drive a 7/8" or 22mm pin through the top of the leg before you hit it with the sledge.

 

[glasshouse]

I used to refurb haybobs in a previous life. It's a couple hours job once you know what you're doing. And definitely no hammer needed!!

Any hints for removing wheels?
Got them so far thanks to utube, now cant shift them at all

 

[Hfd Cattle]

They were decent things in their day......and still are ! It's not the hay bobs fault that things have just got bigger .
Main thing is to take the time to set them up right .
The wheels go up and down for a purpose so if they are seized up its well worth spending the time freeing them up .
...but genuine tines if you can still get them they might be a quid more but we always found them to be better .
Most times break because the machine isn't set up properly !

 

[Hfd Cattle]

....and finally they will still be worth what you paid for it ...in 10 yrs if you look after it !

 

[David1968]

Am I the only person here that's never used a haybob?

I feel like there's something missing in my life now