PZ haybob deflector gates

[Kezman50]

I need to buy some new deflector gates for my haybob because mine have had it!
looking around on eBay and the like, most available seem to be ’New style’ though I’ve found the odd one which is described as 'old style'. What’s the difference please and are they interchangeable anyway?

ive always thought I had the 300 but I suppose it’s possible I’ve got the 275. Again what’s the difference and as above.... are parts interchangeable.?

Finally I need a new pto shaft for it as well (inc plastic guards etc) does anyone know dimension and spec. Obviously 540 both ends but a previous search on here revealed a waltersheid slip clutch version. Is it really necessary to have the slip clutch.

sorry for the barrage of questions....

 

[Kezman50]

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[solo]

Don’t know about interchangeable gates but they are available here. https://www.agri-linc.com/pz-zweegers-haybob-gates.html You could always ask for dimensions. They would also supply complete pto shafts.
A slip clutch is included on implements as protection for the drive if something mechanical goes wrong. Eg you drive too close to a fence.
A shear bolt will also protect the driveline.
An overrun clutch on the pro shaft allows you to disengage the drive and the implement slows down gradually without putting strain on the tractor pto clutch.

 

[Netherfield]

Most on here will probably tell you to scrap it anyway, seems to be one of the most hated machines ever made.

 

[Dave W]

Biggest difference with the gates is the mounting hinges/pins.
new style has a square nylon block on top. Old style just a straight pin

 

[Kezman50]

Thanks for reply and link. I know and on a mower I totally get for added benefit of a slip clutch but a hay bob?

 

[Sharpy]

Thanks for reply and link. I know and on a mower I totally get for added benefit of a slip clutch but a hay bob?

It may save you breaking a lot of tines, all haybobs were fitted with them from the factory for a reason.

 

[Pushdyke]

Thanks for reply and link. I know and on a mower I totally get for added benefit of a slip clutch but a hay bob?

I reckon the clutch on the hay bob p t o shaft is an over run clutch not a slip clutch.

 

[Boohoo]

Post a picture of it and we'll be able to tell you which model it is.
The clutch is there for a reason but a careful operator with a low horsepower tractor will never hear the clutch slipping so could probably do without it. Waltershied shafts were fitted originally but other makes are available for less money and should be fine for the occasional user.

 

[Boohoo]

I reckon the clutch on the hay bob p t o shaft is an over run clutch not a slip clutch.

To give it it's proper name, it's a radial pin clutch, which is a type of slip clutch. Over run clutches have smooth rather than ribbed casings.

 

[DrWazzock]

I fitted plywood boards in our hay bob gates and found them ten tines better then the original tines. A bit of time with a cutting disc and welder can set the gates up nicely.

 

[DrWazzock]

To give it it's proper name, it's a radial pin clutch, which is a type of slip clutch. Over run clutches have smooth rather than ribbed casings.

I have heard it rattle if I have got against fence post.

 

[Boohoo]

I have heard it rattle if I have got against fence post.

I hate it when fence posts jump out at you...

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

I have to make a set of gates for a rotund, (big haybob) and am planning to use rubber belting, instead of tines. Anyone else done this?

 

[Boohoo]

I have to make a set of gates for a rotund, (big haybob) and am planning to use rubber belting, instead of tines. Anyone else done this?

I've never seen gates on a rotonde

 

[quattro]

I might have some old style ones

 

[Tha Ulsterscot]

I've never seen gates on a rotonde

Not normally used when rowing silage, but with hay and haylage they make a tidier sward.

 

[Boohoo]

Not normally used when rowing silage, but with hay and haylage they make a tidier sward.

Not much to them when you see them

Lely Rotonde 510 cd

does any body know where I could get a set of rowing gates for the above machine?

thefarmingforum.co.uk

 

[DrWazzock]

Only time really needed here is when making a square edged flat windrow for the round baker. Both rotors in spread mode. The gates keep the windrow edge neat. If rotors in rowing up mode or you want to spread then not strictly needed, in fact best removed to save wear on them . On ours turning the nylon blocks raises or lowers the tail end of the gates and so gives some adjustnent.

 

[Boohoo]

Only time really needed here is when making a square edged flat windrow for the round baker. Both rotors in spread mode. The gates keep the windrow edge neat. If rotors in rowing up mode or you want to spread then not strictly needed, in fact best removed to save wear on them . On ours turning the nylon blocks raises or lowers the tail end of the gates and so gives some adjustnent.

If you kept the gates on when spreading and closed the outside one a bit the first time round, the grass would stay away from the fence posts!