QF Tractors

smcapstick

Member
Location
Kirkby Lonsdale
In addition to that, trade-ins are a pain in everyone's ass but often a necessary evil.

I rarely took them until recently, as a lot of my stock was too low a value to allow the underwriting of something else. Now, I always offer a fair trade price and explain that the P/X must be below market value as checking it and selling it requires time and money. I am not in business to take things I may only break even, or worse, lose on. I have overheads - I can't do things for free. A trade-in is NOT money. It's work and a financial liability until it sells. Nearly all understand that.

The ones that don't, however, get argumentative and always rhyme off the same thing - 'It's worth X all day long'. If so, sell it yourself - easily - then come back with the money you made and we'll go from there. I have never, ever heard back off any of those people, though, and a don't lose a wink of sleep thinking about it.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
The ones that don't, however, get argumentative and always rhyme off the same thing - 'It's worth X all day long'. If so, sell it yourself - easily - then come back with the money you made and we'll go from there. I have never, ever heard back off any of those people, though, and a don't lose a wink of sleep thinking about it.
I looked at a Tractor from a dealer he came out and gave me a price for the older one I had to sell [not very far], I told him no thanks and gave him a cheque to clear for the one I bought and sold my tractor myself and was 25% better off but it was my risk and I didn't argue
 

JCfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
warks
I will cite one example


Older secondhand decker. Paint shabby but underneath very (unusually) solid and the owner had kept on top of gate hangers etc etc.

We offered him a figure on part exchange against new

I advertised the old trailer as sold as seen as opposed to having gone through the workshops. Chap rings me up and bluntly just wants to know what the cheapest price would be to take it away. Price (inc saving) given.

Prospective customer arrives at yard with his Mother and his Uncle (in a brand new Range Rover - but that's owt to do with me).

First port of call is the rear yard and a newly painted secondhand Pezzi trailer takes their eye. Price given (bear in mind this is 3 x value of what they said their budget was).

Chap then spends 3 hours looking at trailer. Lists "faults". Asks for best price for fault rectification and respray. Respray at £4k not £7-9k and repairs. Now a good loss on the deal but we wanted trailer moving.

Then picture produced of a part exchange. This was never mentioned and wouldn't ordinarily be considered. A 2 deck cow trailer with the old 5ft 2in deck heights, so virtually unusable for anything but a store cattle dealer these days. Already at a loss on the deal, we offer scrappage value so at least the guy can tow it to us and collect his new one.

In the end the chap decided to sell that trailer privately and made a bit more than scrappage and he bought a cheap Pezzi trailer elsewhere. Now all of that is fair game at the bottom end of any dealing concern.

What is not acceptable (IMHO) is the 'phone call I received from that lady / Mother accusing me of all sorts and basically trying to rip them off.

The really sad thing is, if they had asked us about the other trailer they did buy, we could have told them quite a lot about the trailer and what would sensibly need doing to keep it cost effectively operational over the long term

I found that many in the trade were fairer and more realistic in their expectations than farmers.

Sorry but it's not all a one way street.



And before anyone hollers , I am NOT saying the majority of farmers are dishonest. They maybe need to be honest with themselves a bit
Sounds like it could have been Quite Frankly a dealer trying to buy off you. ;) JOKE!!!
 

JMTHORNLEY

Member
Location
Glossop
They seem to shift plenty of items. I actually spoke to them regarding a JD 3200 they had but it had sold. Looks sound machinery, maybe they have cleaned their act up a little bit?
 

DrDunc

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Dunsyre
They seem to shift plenty of items. I actually spoke to them regarding a JD 3200 they had but it had sold. Looks sound machinery, maybe they have cleaned their act up a little bit?
Provided you go into the deal with your eyes open, you'll get what you pay for....

.....Dodgy old machinery that nobody else will touch, no guarantee or come back, and anything that works when you view it swapped out for the broken bits off the machine they can't shift by the time it's delivered...... Allegedly :whistle:
 

JMTHORNLEY

Member
Location
Glossop
Provided you go into the deal with your eyes open, you'll get what you pay for....

.....Dodgy old machinery that nobody else will touch, no guarantee or come back, and anything that works when you view it swapped out for the broken bits off the machine they can't shift by the time it's delivered...... Allegedly :whistle:

OH :scratchhead: well that changes a few things then...Guess the hunt continues for a reasonable second hand telehandler then. Seen some good bits of kit about but never at the right time or loacation
 

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