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Maybe they've got an answer.Not at all. It was just minor a clerical error the important bit, the point being made is there true, loud and clear and dare they ignore or delete it.
Let's see.
Maybe they've got an answer.Not at all. It was just minor a clerical error the important bit, the point being made is there true, loud and clear and dare they ignore or delete it.
Let's wait for their answer, and see how rigorous their traceability standards are.
So going by this statement, can i assume any bread, flour or cereal product contains NO imported grains or ingredients? I will ask the same on faceache
They do like to give the works phone to the work experience lad though who replies with total bullshite, all helping to sink the ship.........................................Red tractor wont do anything about the comment as there £250k down on staffing budget so probably no one there to reply anymore
Blimey is there a school careers adviser out there vindictive enough to ruin a child’s future by suggesting they go and get work experience from a bunch of losers at red tractor HQThey do like to give the works phone to the work experience lad though who replies with total bullshite, all helping to sink the ship.........................................
I suppose Farmer Giles fails, makes his failure right and then it carries on?
Food safety is very important.Red tractor wont do anything about the comment as there £250k down on staffing budget so probably no one there to reply anymore
And on the remote chance that someone is there @Grass And Grain question cannot be answered from the standard text the social media people are allowed to use.
therefore the best hope we’ve got is it will be ignored or worst case scenario it be deleted.
Although why they would delete a members valid question is beyond me!
unless of course they don’t have a worthwhile answer?
Well if there unable to answer such a simple question like you have posted, it casts massive doubt on the validity and relevance of everything they do?Food safety is very important.
If RT know a member has been suspended for a food safety non-conformance, and the grain has gone to central store, then RT need to have a system in place to deal with the situation and that bulk of grain. Otherwise we're all wasting our time with RT assurance. The written H&S policy, writing down when I filled the rodent bait stations up, writing down what time I washed the grain bucket, stickers on the side of my grain trailer, farm environmental policy etc. have all just been a whole lot of fluffy cotton wool to make it look like it's a world-class assurance scheme. It's only a good use of our time and money if it does actually provide food safety assurance.
Well @Grass And Grain is a rt member and having known him for a lot of years I can honestly say he is neither malicious or disruptive, Totally the opposite in fact, very reasonable and level headed I would say.Just had another look on Facebook but can’t find @Grass And Grain post however I did find a group Red Tractor Farmers, it has a whopping great 59 members.
It says disruptive members will be removed
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I put a really rather polite question to that RT group a few weeks ago. It got deleted with no explanation or answer.Just had another look on Facebook but can’t find @Grass And Grain post however I did find a group Red Tractor Farmers, it has a whopping great 59 members.
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I can’t get onto the rt FB page any more, think I’m bannedI put a really rather polite question to that RT group a few weeks ago. It got deleted with no explanation or answer.
So, what if on inspection day the spray rec's were to show that an out of date chemical or for instance ctl that's been banned was used by the operator who did not know it had been banned and that grain was in the bin with another 2800 ton still OK for all the bin to enter the food chain?The mixing with other grain is a bit of a red herring isn’t it? Assured grain is never re-called after it has left the farm as assured. So basically everything that has left the farm to the point of disqualification is assured through the food chain.
Would you get disqualified from RT for that? Probably just a warning?So, what if on inspection day the spray rec's were to show that an out of date chemical or for instance ctl that's been banned was used by the operator who did not know it had been banned and that grain was in the bin with another 2800 ton still OK for all the bin to enter the food chain?
the grain (as an example) has a banned chemical applied to it so should not enter the food chain irrespective of who owns it. How do they treat the bin is what we are asking.Would you get disqualified from RT for that? Probably just a warning?
Any way, assuming you did get banned. If it has left the farmers ownership then it is safe. If it has not then it is not.
The liability is with the farmer to recall the grain if he thinks there is a legitimate risk to human health. Red tractor are just providing a quality assurance process.the grain (as an example) has a banned chemical applied to it so should not enter the food chain irrespective of who owns it. How do they treat the bin is what we are asking.
Quite a different reply to the one that you stated "assured grain is never recalled" and that and that once it left the farm it is assured though the food chain.The liability is with the farmer to recall the grain if he thinks there is a legitimate risk to human health. Red tractor are just providing a quality assurance process.
Ford are ISO certified. But it is not ISO that do a recall if there is a quality issue.